[BITList] Fwd: RAF to fly with a grey doughnut

michael J Feltham ismay at mjfeltham.plus.com
Mon Jan 22 07:48:46 GMT 2018



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> No Red, White & Blue roundel for the Busters! 
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> Right thing to do really if you don't want to be seen!
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> By the way DM, it’s not a logo, it's a ROUNDEL. (They do refer to it as a roundel in the article).
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> RAF Dambusters squadron loses its red, white and blue logo to stay stealthy in new £150m fighter jets
> 617 Squadron was formed on March 23, 1943 for the Dambusters mission
> The famous squadron is being reborn with the state of the art F-35 stealth fighter
> But the planes will not have the iconic red, white, blue and yellow roundels
> Instead they will be replaced with a 'grey doughnut' roundel for lack of visibility 
> By BRIDIE PEARSON-JONES FOR MAILONLINE <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Bridie+Pearson-jones+For+Mailonline>
> PUBLISHED: 13:29, 21 January 2018 | UPDATED: 13:30, 21 January 2018
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> The iconic Lancaster bombers that took part in 1943's daring raid and were immortalised in 1955 film Dambusters will lose their illustrious red, white, blue and yellow roundels. 
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> The RAF's new 617 squadron's F-35B Lightning II planed will have a new roundel, called a 'grey doughnut' on the side of each aircraft, in a move to appear less obvious in the sky.
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> The legendary Dambusters reformed in December after getting disbanded in 2013.
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> The RAF's new 617 squadron's F-35B Lightning II planed will have a new roundel, called a 'grey doughnut' on the side of each aircraft, in a move to appear less obvious in the sky
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> The original Dambusters squadron was formed by Wing Commander Guy Gibson, centre
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> 'The Dambusters were formed nearly 75 years ago for a very special purpose, to bring cutting-edge technology into service for a very special mission,' said Wing Commander John Butcher, commanding the new team.
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> 'And for me I can see a lot of parallels with what we are being asked to do now.'
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> The roundel won't be painted, but built in.
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> The first 13 British F-35B aircraft will arrive in the UK next year at RAF Marham, Norfolk
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> 'The name of the game is stealth, so these aircraft will carry no squadron markings at all – just the grey roundel which will identify it as British,' said an RAF source last night.'  
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> The crew of the first 13 of the £150m aircraft were trained on their jets in the United States at US Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort before returning to the UK.
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> The squadron will be based in RAF Marham, Norfolk. The aircraft will be flown by both RAF and Royal Navy pilots and will operate from land and sea. 
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> Wing Commander John Butcher, who will command the newly reformed squadron previously said 'They were formed nearly 75 years ago for a very special purpose, and that was to bring cutting-edge technology into service for a very special mission. 
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> 'And for me I can see a lot of parallels with what we are being asked to do now. We are bringing very special technology into service - once again for a very, very special mission, which is to bring stealth and combat air capability to UK defence.
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> 'I think there is a nice link there between what our forefathers did with 617 squadron, and what we are now doing.' 
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> How the original Dambusters successfully managed to breach the Mohne and Eder dams, but failed to destroy the Sorpe and Schwelme
> The original Dambusters squadron was formed at RAF Scampton on March 23, 1943 for a special mission to destroy several dams in the German Ruhr valley.
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> Wing Commander Guy Gibson was given permission to hand-pick his bomber crews from other Lancaster squadrons to give the mission the greatest chance of success.
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> The crews trained relentlessly with low-level flying in order to achieve the maximum level of surprise.
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> Also, the specially-designed 'bouncing bomb' had to be dropped above the water at an exact height of 60 feet and a speed of 220mph.
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> The mission required 19 specially-adapted Lancasters to carry out the attack on the night of May 16/17 1943. 
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> The crews successfully managed to breach the Mohne and Eder dams, but failed to destroy the Sorpe and Schwelme.
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> Gibson, to give his fellow flyers the greatest chance of success flew above the dams to attract anti-aircraft fire while his men lined up their repeated attacks.
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> For this, he was awarded the Victoria Cross.
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> In total, eight of the 19 crews did not return from the mission.
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> However, for 617 Squadron, their precision flying that night saw them lined up for other highly specialised missions, such as using the 12,000lb Tallboy and 22,000 Grand Slam bombs - also designed by Barnes Wallis, who previously created the bouncing bomb.
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> Following the Second World War, 617 Squadron saw service in Malaya i before it was disbanded on December 15, 1955.
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> The Squadron was reformed again in Scampton in May 1958, with Vulcans - when again it was disbanded on New Years' Eve 1981. The squadron was reformed in 1982, receiving Tornado GR1s, later updated to the GR4.
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> The Squadron saw service in Iraq as part of Operation Telic in April 2003 and was again disbanded in 2014. 
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