[BITList] RAF to fly with a grey doughnut

John Feltham wantok at me.com
Mon Jan 22 07:24:30 GMT 2018



Where does the Daily Mail get their journalists from?

A foreign land?




From one of our own correspondents…

 



No Red, White & Blue roundel for the Busters! 

Right thing to do really if you don't want to be seen!

By the way DM, it’s not a logo, it's a ROUNDEL. (They do refer to it as a roundel in the article).

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RAF Dambusters squadron loses its red, white and blue logo to stay stealthy in new £150m fighter jets
617 Squadron was formed on March 23, 1943 for the Dambusters mission
The famous squadron is being reborn with the state of the art F-35 stealth fighter
But the planes will not have the iconic red, white, blue and yellow roundels
Instead they will be replaced with a 'grey doughnut' roundel for lack of visibility 
By BRIDIE PEARSON-JONES FOR MAILONLINE <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Bridie+Pearson-jones+For+Mailonline>
PUBLISHED: 13:29, 21 January 2018 | UPDATED: 13:30, 21 January 2018

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The iconic Lancaster bombers that took part in 1943's daring raid and were immortalised in 1955 film Dambusters will lose their illustrious red, white, blue and yellow roundels. 

The RAF's new 617 squadron's F-35B Lightning II planed will have a new roundel, called a 'grey doughnut' on the side of each aircraft, in a move to appear less obvious in the sky.

The legendary Dambusters reformed in December after getting disbanded in 2013.

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The RAF's new 617 squadron's F-35B Lightning II planed will have a new roundel, called a 'grey doughnut' on the side of each aircraft, in a move to appear less obvious in the sky

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The original Dambusters squadron was formed by Wing Commander Guy Gibson, centre

'The Dambusters were formed nearly 75 years ago for a very special purpose, to bring cutting-edge technology into service for a very special mission,' said Wing Commander John Butcher, commanding the new team.

'And for me I can see a lot of parallels with what we are being asked to do now.'

The roundel won't be painted, but built in.

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The first 13 British F-35B aircraft will arrive in the UK next year at RAF Marham, Norfolk

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'The name of the game is stealth, so these aircraft will carry no squadron markings at all – just the grey roundel which will identify it as British,' said an RAF source last night.'  

The crew of the first 13 of the £150m aircraft were trained on their jets in the United States at US Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort before returning to the UK.

The squadron will be based in RAF Marham, Norfolk. The aircraft will be flown by both RAF and Royal Navy pilots and will operate from land and sea. 

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Wing Commander John Butcher, who will command the newly reformed squadron previously said 'They were formed nearly 75 years ago for a very special purpose, and that was to bring cutting-edge technology into service for a very special mission. 

'And for me I can see a lot of parallels with what we are being asked to do now. We are bringing very special technology into service - once again for a very, very special mission, which is to bring stealth and combat air capability to UK defence.

'I think there is a nice link there between what our forefathers did with 617 squadron, and what we are now doing.' 




How the original Dambusters successfully managed to breach the Mohne and Eder dams, but failed to destroy the Sorpe and Schwelme
The original Dambusters squadron was formed at RAF Scampton on March 23, 1943 for a special mission to destroy several dams in the German Ruhr valley.

Wing Commander Guy Gibson was given permission to hand-pick his bomber crews from other Lancaster squadrons to give the mission the greatest chance of success.

The crews trained relentlessly with low-level flying in order to achieve the maximum level of surprise.

Also, the specially-designed 'bouncing bomb' had to be dropped above the water at an exact height of 60 feet and a speed of 220mph.

The mission required 19 specially-adapted Lancasters to carry out the attack on the night of May 16/17 1943. 

The crews successfully managed to breach the Mohne and Eder dams, but failed to destroy the Sorpe and Schwelme.

Gibson, to give his fellow flyers the greatest chance of success flew above the dams to attract anti-aircraft fire while his men lined up their repeated attacks.

For this, he was awarded the Victoria Cross.

In total, eight of the 19 crews did not return from the mission.

However, for 617 Squadron, their precision flying that night saw them lined up for other highly specialised missions, such as using the 12,000lb Tallboy and 22,000 Grand Slam bombs - also designed by Barnes Wallis, who previously created the bouncing bomb.

Following the Second World War, 617 Squadron saw service in Malaya i before it was disbanded on December 15, 1955.

The Squadron was reformed again in Scampton in May 1958, with Vulcans - when again it was disbanded on New Years' Eve 1981. The squadron was reformed in 1982, receiving Tornado GR1s, later updated to the GR4.

The Squadron saw service in Iraq as part of Operation Telic in April 2003 and was again disbanded in 2014. 



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