[BITList] King's Scout

John Davison davison.g at xtra.co.nz
Wed Sep 11 00:31:21 BST 2013


THANKS COLIN ,
 
I BECAME A SCOUT AT AGE 10 OR 12 , A KINGS SCOUT AT 14/15 , TO GET THIS HONOUR ONE HAD TO PASS VARIOUS PROFICIENCY TESTS , IE FIRST AID , FIRE FIGHTING , SWIMMING , A NUMBER OF DAYS UNDER CANVAS IE CAMPING , MAP READING , SOME SIGNALLING , SEMAPHORE AND TO KNOW THE MORSE CODE , PLUS A TEST IN THE COMPANY OF ANOTHER SCOUT WHERE ONE WENT OFF FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS IN THE COUNTRY , CAMPED OUT , AND REPORTED BACK ON THE WHOLE AREA EXPERINCED . 
 
A SCOUT TROOP CONSISTS OF A SCOUT MASTER , A SCOUT LEADER AND SEVERAL PLATOONS WITH A LEADER AND A 2ND I/C , I WAS A TROOP LEADER AND PERHAPS TO ATAIN KING SCOUT HAD TO BE A TROOP LEADER !1
 
THE SCOUT SALUTE IS THE 3 FINGERS IE DUTY LOYALITY COUNTRY , IT GOES ON MY HONOUR I WILL DO MY BEST FOR GOD AND THE KING , [ QUEEN NOW ] TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE AT ALL TIMES AND TO OBEY THE SCOUT LAW [ CANT SEE ANY HARM IN THAT ?]
 
I AM NOT SURE OF THE NZ CODE BUT ASSUME IT IS OR WAS THE SAME .
 
MY EXPERIENCE WAS IN DURHAM CITY AND WAS IN THE 5TH DURHAM GROUP .
 
AFTER KING SCOUT THE NEXT HIGHER [ OLDER PEOPLE ] IS THE ROVERS .
 
RE NZ , WHEN WORKING IN SPORE  FOR EVERETT STEAMSHIP CO , WE GOT LEAVE EVERY 3 YEARS , SO TOOK A TRIP TO NZ IN 73 , MY ELDER BROTHER LIVED THERE , I THOUGHT IT COULD REPEAT COULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO BRING OUR CHILDREN UP , SO BOUGHT A HOUSE THERE , NZ POPULATION ONLY 2 MILLION THEN . 
 
MY BROTHER SPLIT UP WITH HIS WIFE AND RETURNED TO UK , I STAYED ON !!! 
IN HINDSIGHT WISH I HAD GONE TO AUSSIE WHERE I HAD MORE FRIENDS OR GONE BACK TO UK .
 
BUT THERE ARE WORSE PLACES THAN NZ TO LIVE , NZ IS NOT A BAD PLACE , I HAVE A DAUGHTER AND 2 GRANDCHILDREN THERE , ALSO A SON AND GRANDSON IN SYDNEY .
 
TRUST I HAVE ANSWERED YR QUESTION COLIN , WHY THE SCOUTS AND GUIDES HAVE DROPPED THE GOD OUT , IE IF THIS IS THE CASE AS I HAVE NOT BEEN READING ALL THIS CORRESSPONDENCE  PUZZLES ME .
 
THE SCOUTS AND GUIDES ARE A WONDERFUL TRAINING GROUND FOR YOUNG PEOPLE OPINE , AND THE SCOUTS HELPED ME  IN MY SEA CAREER 
 
SALAAMS 
 
JOHN
 

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 From: x50type <x50type at cox.net>
To: John Davison <davison.g at xtra.co.nz>; BitList <bitlist at lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 9:16 PM
Subject: King's Scout
  


John 
  
A King’s Scout sounds pretty impressive. For my edification 
please tell me know what is a KS and how you obtained the level. 
  
I expect it took a number of years – where were you during the 
time? 
  
Do you not live in new zealand now – how did you end up there 
and why not australia [say]? 
  
I am with you – who and why did scouts decide to drop God from 
the oath? 
  
Enquiring minds want to know. 
  
Colin t 
  
  
  

From: John Davison  
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 3:36 AM 
To: BitList  
Subject: Re: [BITList] Powerful stuff .... 
 I FAIL TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE SCOUTS DROPPED GOD FROM THE OATH OR 
PLEDGE ,I WAS A KINGS SCOUT [ 
THAT DATES ME ]  
  
IF IT IS TO PLEASE THE NEW MULTITUDES OF NON CHRISTIANS INTO THE UK , 
I CANT SEE WHY   , THEY WOULD OBJECT TO THE USE OF GOD , AFTER ALL 
THEY HAVE A GOD TOO !!! 
  
INFO FOR ANYONE TO BE ACCEPTED INTO THE MASONS , IT IS MANDATORY THAT 
THE ENTRANT BELIEVES IN A SUPREME BEING , IE  A GOD , AND THERE ARE MANY 
NON CHRISTAIN PRACTISING MASONS , JEWS , MUSLIMS , HINDUS , ETC . 
  
  
SORRY I DONT WISH TO RAISE ANY CONTROVERSY , IF MY VIEWS ARE NOT 
CONSIDERED PC TO SOME PEOPLE . 
  
I JUST CANT UNDERSTAND WHY THE WORD GOD WAS DROPPED ??? 
  
BAHUT SALAAMS SAHIBS . 
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