[BITList] more Islamification of Western societies threatens everyone's freedoms - FALSE ALARM
FA
franka at iinet.net.au
Wed Feb 27 03:30:16 GMT 2013
Ct
A current example where a sovereign country was taken over by the birth
rate of migrants is Fiji, but at least the Fijians had the good sense to
take back their country, unfortunately having to use arms to do so and
upsetting the unaffected PC brigade in the process
frank
On 2/27/2013 7:29 AM, x50type at cox.net wrote:
>
> John
>
> you have probably seen the stats in the following put out by various
> European government departments; strangely enough the stats differ a
> bit from your statement of fact.
>
> [a minor detail I know, but you don’t mention the infallible source of
> your the statement of fact!]
>
> ct
>
> *Muslim Demographics*
>
> E-mail this Claim: Statistics demonstrate that "Islam will overwhelm
> Christendom unless Christians recognize the demographic realities and
> begin reproducing again." MOSTLY FALSE Example: [Collected via e-mail,
> April 2009] I have just...
>
> Read More <http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/demographics.asp>|
> Print & PDF
> <http://www.printfriendly.com/print/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snopes.com%2Fpolitics%2Freligion%2Fdemographics.asp>
>
> *From:* x50type at cox.net <mailto:x50type at cox.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 5:05 PM
> *To:* BitList <mailto:bitlist at lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [BITList] Islamification of Western
> societiesthreatenseveryone'sfreedoms - FALSE ALARM
> John,
> I am so glad you have the definitive answer and it is an actual
> statement of fact; I feel so much better and can sleep peacefully now.
> ct
> *From:* John Davison <mailto:davison.g at xtra.co.nz>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:08 PM
> *To:* BitList <mailto:bitlist at lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [BITList] Islamification of Western
> societiesthreatenseveryone'sfreedoms - FALSE ALARM
> THEN HOW IS IT SAID THAT IN A SMALL COUNTRY LIKE BELGIUM , WITH A
> LARGE AND INCREASING MUSLIM POPULATION , WITHIN 20 YEARS TIME OR MUCH
> LESS IF I AM NOT WRONG , MUSLIMS WILL BE THE MAJORITY OF THE
> POPULATION AND IN A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY LIKE BELGIUM AND OTHER EU
> COUNTRIES THEY CAN FORM THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT , THIS STATISTIC HAS BEEN
> QUOTED ON THIS WEB RECENTLY .
> .WHAT WILL BELGIUM AN OLD HISTORIC EUROPEAN COUNTRY DO THEN .
> I WORKED IN MADRAS 2001-2003 , IN MY OFFICE I NOTICED THAT ALL THE
> MARRIED STAFF , APPROX 60 , ONLY HAD 2 CHILDREN MAX, AND THEY ALL TOLD
> ME THAT 2 WAS ENOUGH , THEY WERE ALL HINDUS OR CHRISTIANS , MUSLIMS ,
> I AM TOLD AND READ , WORLD WIDE , ARE URGED TO HAVE AS MANY CHILDREN
> AS POSSIBLE ! TO INCREASE THEIR POPULATIONS IN NON MUSLIM COUNTRIES ???
> THIS IS NOT A RACIST STATEMENT .JUST A STATEMENT OF FACT !!
> SALAAMS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* x50type at cox.net <mailto:x50type at cox.net>
> *To:* BitList <mailto:bitlist at lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:07 AM
> *Subject:* [BITList] Islamification of Western societies
> threatenseveryone'sfreedoms - FALSE ALARM
>
> There is plenty of stats and evidence based info around to
> indicate that this is the usual racist and alarmist rhetoric --
> commentators seem more focused on ringing false alarm bells than
> on presenting facts.
>
> it’s as the failed mitt romney team said – we are not letting
> facts get in our way.....................!
>
> and well said, Hugh
>
> [I am surprised this type of xenophobic nonsense shows up on this
> list – usually from Frank, but he seems to have cooled it of late.]
>
> ct
>
> The Pew findings demonstrate that fear of a Muslim takeover was
> largely the product of hysteria.France is not headed toward
> becoming an "Islamic republic" by 2048
> <http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/01/27/will-pew-muslim-birth-rate-study-finally-silence-the-eurabia-claim/>,
> as has been claimed, andGermany is not on its way to becoming a
> "Muslim state" by 2050 <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8189231.stm>.
>
> It is strange that these Pew findings and projections are less
> likely to circulate as widely or quickly as statistics about
> predictions of a Muslim takeover. Commentators seem more focused
> on ringing false alarm bells than on presenting facts. The reality
> is that there is no takeover, but that there is a danger of
> intolerance that threatens the very fabric of British and European
> society We are not witnessing a clash of civilisations, but a
> clash of cultures fostered by those who portray Islam as a
> monolith and see religious and cultural diversity solely as a
> threat rather than as a potential source of strength and
> enrichment. The liberal democratic heritage and fabric of our
> societies must be safeguarded and fearmongering, religious and
> racial discrimination rejected and marginalised in a future based
> on facts not fiction.
>
> *From:* John Feltham <mailto:wantok at me.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:19 AM
> *To:* Undisclosed recipients:
> *Subject:* [BITList] Islamification of Western societies threatens
> everyone'sfreedoms
>
> * http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/islamification-of-western-societies-threatens-everyones-freedoms/story-e6frgd0x-1226579834543
>
> *
>
> * by: Geert Wilders
> * From: The Australian <http://www.theaustralian.com.au/>
> * February 18, 2013 12:00AM
>
> *THIRTY years ago, as a young man, I dreamed of Australia. I
> wanted to find myself a job there. Lack of sufficient funds
> decided otherwise and I ended up in Israel, working in a bakery in
> Jerusalem and on a farm near Jericho.*
>
> *During the year that I lived in Israel, I travelled to Egypt.
> This trip made a huge impression on me. Israel and Egypt are
> neighbours, with the same climate, similar resources, the same
> potential. And yet Egypt is poor while Israel is wealthy. Even
> though at the time I was not interested in politics, I learned
> from this trip that the key to understanding the wealth of nations
> lies in their culture. If the latter promotes freedom, a nation
> will prosper.*
>
> *In the 30 years since my first visit to Egypt, I have visited
> Indonesia, Turkey, Tunisia, Syria, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. I
> left Iran in a hurry once, fearing for my life, because, in a
> speech at a Tehran school for diplomats and military cadets, I had
> criticised the regime and spoke in defence of Israel. They had
> told me that I was allowed to speak freely, but it was naive to
> believe them.*
>
> *In the Islamic world, I was always struck by two things. I was
> impressed by the kindness and helpfulness of many people. But
> there was also their fear. Islamic societies are ruled by terror.
> Muslims are good people, but they live under the yoke of Islamic
> sharia. If they leave Islam, or even just mildly criticise it,
> they sign their own death verdict.*
>
> *I returned to The Netherlands and became a politician. I used to
> live in the Kanaleneiland district of Utrecht. During my years
> there, the district was transformed into a dangerous neighbourhood
> for non-Muslims. I have been robbed. On several occasions I had to
> run for safety. The same transformation happened in several cities
> in The Netherlands and other European countries where Islam
> settled. Europe is going through an Islamification process, which
> makes our continent less free and less safe.*
>
> *Contrary to what many Westerners think, Islam, rather than a
> religion, is a totalitarian political ideology. It is an ideology
> because it aims for an Islamic state and wants to impose sharia on
> all of us. It is totalitarian because it is not voluntary: once
> you are in, you cannot get out. Unlike genuine religions, Islam
> also makes demands on non-Muslims. We, too, are marked for death
> if we criticise it.*
>
> *For nine years I have been living under constant police
> protection. I live in a government safe house. I am driven every
> day to my office in an armoured police car. I have even lived in
> army barracks and prison cells just to be safe from assassins. I
> am threatened because I am a a critic of Islam.*
>
> *I always make a distinction between Muslims and Islam, between
> the people and the ideology. Most Muslims are moderate, but this
> does not mean there is such a thing as a moderate Islam. People
> who reject Islam's violent and intolerant commandments are not
> practising "moderate Islam" -- they are not practising Islam at all.*
>
> *That is the truth. And it needs to be said because freedom of
> speech is the only tool we have. We stand for our convictions, but
> we never use violence. We abhor violence. The reason we reject
> Islam is Islam's violent nature. Our commitment to human dignity
> does not allow us to use violence nor to give in to cynicism and
> despair. As the ex-Muslim and Islam critic Ali Sina says: "We
> don't raise a sword against darkness; we lit a light." So it is.
> We lit the light of the truth. The truth that while Muslims can
> embrace freedom, Islam cannot.*
>
> *In the normal order of things, immigration from Islamic countries
> weakens Islam. People prefer freedom over tyranny. Contact with
> Western freedoms would lead Muslims to abandon Islam. However,
> through the creation of a sharia-based parallel society in the
> West, Islam manages to continue its control over its captives.*
>
> *This week, I will be speaking in Melbourne, Perth and Sydney.
> Politicians say I am not welcome, universities do not want to
> grant me access. They say I am an extremist. However, I am not. I
> am the leader of the third-largest party in The Netherlands, a
> country known for its tradition of tolerance. I have spoken
> earlier in the premises of the US congress, the British House of
> Lords, the Israeli Knesset, the Danish parliament, and at numerous
> conferences, where I met like-minded democratically elected
> politicians, none of whom belong to the far Right.*
>
> *Freedom is the key to prosperity and Islam deprives people of it.
> Let us support Muslims who want to free themselves from the yoke
> of Islam. Let us stand for our own freedoms. We owe it to the past
> generations always to speak the truth and not to squander our
> liberties. And we owe it to the future generations not to sign
> away their freedom.*
>
> *
> *
>
> *Geert Wilders is a Dutch MP and leader of the Party for
> Freedom.He will talk in Melbourne tomorrow, Perth on Wednesday and
> Sydney on Friday. /www.qevent.org <http://www.qevent.org/>//./*
>
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