[BITList] manslaughter

Fri Aug 30 16:08:03 BST 2013

Colin
Think that BP makes a more attractive target than an American drilling 
company hidding out in Switzerland
frank

On 8/30/2013 10:36 PM, x50type wrote:
> Frank
> You may be right in theory, but if the rig supt wants to keep his job 
> [which he certainly does] and if the rig owner wants more work from BP 
> [which he certainly does],  he is not going to stop the company man 
> from doing anything. Remember the drilling company is contracted to 
> and is working under direct orders from BP office wallahs in Houston, 
> and no company man is going to countermand their orders.This chain of 
> command has been hashed out during various pre-trial hearings and the 
> USCG investigation and has been found that the party directing 
> operations [BP] in practice, has overall responsibility.
> And you will recall the golden rule – He who hath the gold maketh the 
> rules.
> Further research indicates the two ‘well site leaders’ are indeed the 
> two company men aboard the rig.
> At the investigation both refused to answer questions; Kaluza invoking 
> his constitutional right and Vidrine for health reasons [the very 
> serious indictment of manslaughter could give one a headache!]. it may 
> be a different story at the trial. I wonder if the refusal was at the 
> ‘suggestion’ of BP.
> The various trials [130 so far] are being held at the US District 
> Court Eastern District of Louisiana in Poydras street, New Orleans. I 
> really should get my ass over there some time, it’s no more than 25 
> minutes from my house.
> BP wanted the trails to be held in Houston but counter parties 
> disagreed, saying Houston was too oil industry orientated [which is 
> true].
> My view is that the real culprits of the disaster are the BP office 
> wallahs in Houston – what are your views?
> ct
> .
> *From:* FA <mailto:franka at iinet.net.au>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 30, 2013 3:17 AM
> *To:* BitList <mailto:bitlist at lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [BITList] manslaughter
> Colin,
> If they were the companymen on the rig Then the person with the 
> responsibility for the rig and its equipment belongs to the rig owners 
> Representative normally the rig superintendent. The companyman says 
> what he wants but its the rig supt say on how it it is done, of course 
> the companyman has the right to have the rig supt replaced so its a 
> pretty tenuous situation, Ive never seen a companyman get rid of a rig 
> supt but have seen them get rid of nearly all of the other rank s at 
> one time or another so Really its down to the rig supt in my opinion 
> as he has to have the balls to stand up to the clients reps
> frank
> f
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> On 8/30/2013 9:08 AM, x50type wrote:
>> Frank
>> According to this, they were on the rig! does that change your opinion?
>> I believe BP office wallahs and a Halliburton office wallah have been 
>> indicted for concealing and/or destroying evidence.
>> ct
>> bp
>> *From:* FA <mailto:franka at iinet.net.au>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:28 PM
>> *To:* BitList <mailto:bitlist at lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com>
>> *Subject:* [BITList] manslaughter
>> Colin.
>> I take it that these guys were monitoring / controlling operations 
>> from the beach rather than on the rig, In which case I hope they th 
>> row the book at them for negligence
>> frank
>>
>> Frank,
>> What do you think of this?
>> ct
>> PS  Defenceattorneys are seeking motion for a delay to review 63 
>> million pages of records. The cost of this alone will mean the 2 
>> defendants are penniless for the rest of their lives, regardless of 
>> whether they are found guilty or not.
>> Ex-BP engineers facing manslaughter trial in Deepwater Horizon 
>> explosion seek delay
>> bpfire.jpg
>> *Print* 
>> <http://impact.nola.com/environment/print.html?entry=/2013/08/attorneys_representing_a_pair.html>
>> Juliet Linderman, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune 
>> <http://connect.nola.com/user/jlinderman/index.html>By*Juliet 
>> Linderman, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune* 
>> <http://connect.nola.com/user/jlinderman/posts.html>
>> *Email the author*|*Follow on Twitter* 
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>> on August 28, 2013 at 4:35 PM, updatedAugust 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM
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>> A pair of former BP engineers charged with manslaughter in connection 
>> with the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico 
>> that killed 11 offshore workers asked a federal judge for a 
>> nine-month trial delay.
>>
>> Robert Kaluza and Donald Vidrine, the former rig engineers who have 
>> pleaded not guilty to charges that they disregarded safety measures 
>> and ignored unusually high pressure readings that should have been a 
>> clear indicator of trouble prior to the Macondo well explosion, are 
>> slated to go to trial in early January 2014.
>>
>> Defense attorneys on Wednesday filed a motion seeking the delay to 
>> allow them more time to review more than 63 million pages of records 
>> in the case.
>>
>> "The discovery in this case is extraordinary --€” and ongoing," the 
>> motion reads. Only a single section of these materials, the attorneys 
>> say, "€œwould fill over 6,000 boxes"€ and stretch more than 
>> one-and-a-half miles if lined up in a row.
>>
>> As of Wednesday afternoon, U.S. District Judge Standwood Duval had 
>> not ruled on the request for a delay.
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