[BITList] manslaughter

Fri Aug 30 15:36:26 BST 2013

Frank

You may be right in theory, but if the rig supt wants to keep his job [which he certainly does] and if the rig owner wants more work from BP [which he certainly does],  he is not going to stop the company man from doing anything. Remember the drilling company is contracted to and is working under direct orders from BP office wallahs in Houston, and no company man is going to countermand their orders.This chain of command has been hashed out during various pre-trial hearings and the USCG investigation and has been found that the party directing operations [BP] in practice, has overall responsibility.

And you will recall the golden rule – He who hath the gold maketh the rules.

Further research indicates the two ‘well site leaders’ are indeed the two company men aboard the rig.
At the investigation both refused to answer questions; Kaluza invoking his constitutional right and Vidrine for health reasons [the very serious indictment of manslaughter could give one a headache!]. it may be a different story at the trial. I wonder if the refusal was at the ‘suggestion’ of BP.

The various trials [130 so far] are being held at the US District Court Eastern District of Louisiana in Poydras street, New Orleans. I really should get my ass over there some time, it’s no more than 25 minutes from my house. 
BP wanted the trails to be held in Houston but counter parties disagreed, saying Houston was too oil industry orientated [which is true].  

My view is that the real culprits of the disaster are the BP office wallahs in Houston – what are your views?

ct

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From: FA 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 3:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [BITList] manslaughter

Colin,
If they were the companymen on the rig Then the person with the responsibility for the rig and its equipment belongs to the rig owners Representative normally the rig superintendent. The companyman says what he wants but its the rig supt say on how it it is done, of course the companyman has the right to have the rig supt replaced so its a pretty tenuous situation, Ive never seen a companyman get rid of a rig supt but have seen them get rid of nearly all of the other rank s at one time or another so Really its down to the rig supt in my opinion as he has to have the balls to stand up to the clients reps
frank
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On 8/30/2013 9:08 AM, x50type wrote:

  Frank

  According to this, they were on the rig! does that change your opinion?

  I believe BP office wallahs and a Halliburton office wallah have been indicted for concealing and/or destroying evidence.

  ct

  From: FA 
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:28 PM
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  Subject: [BITList] manslaughter

  Colin.
  I take it that these guys were monitoring / controlling operations from the beach rather than on the rig, In which case I hope they th row the book at them for negligence 
  frank

  Frank,

  What do you think of this?

  ct

  PS  Defence attorneys are seeking motion for a delay to review 63 million pages of records. The cost of this alone will mean the 2 defendants are penniless for the rest of their lives, regardless of whether they are found guilty or not.

  Ex-BP engineers facing manslaughter trial in Deepwater Horizon explosion seek delay

  PrintBy Juliet Linderman, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune 
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  on August 28, 2013 at 4:35 PM, updated August 28, 2013 at 4:42 PM

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  A pair of former BP engineers charged with manslaughter in connection with the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico that killed 11 offshore workers asked a federal judge for a nine-month trial delay.

  Robert Kaluza and Donald Vidrine, the former rig engineers who have pleaded not guilty to charges that they disregarded safety measures and ignored unusually high pressure readings that should have been a clear indicator of trouble prior to the Macondo well explosion, are slated to go to trial in early January 2014.

  Defense attorneys on Wednesday filed a motion seeking the delay to allow them more time to review more than 63 million pages of records in the case.

  "The discovery in this case is extraordinary --€” and ongoing," the motion reads. Only a single section of these materials, the attorneys say, "€œwould fill over 6,000 boxes"€ and stretch more than one-and-a-half miles if lined up in a row.

  As of Wednesday afternoon, U.S. District Judge Standwood Duval had not ruled on the request for a delay. 

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