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Hi Hugh,
            yesterdays and today's, should be back to normal tomorrow.
                      BR Fred



  

    
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   Essex/Suffolk lunch
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   Re: Keeping the flag flying!
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   Re: Keeping the flag flying!
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   Re: Pat Jackson,
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   Re: Raiders
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      Robert Readman  


              

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   River Elbe Ceremony
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   Curry and Rice ticket
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      Roger Northcote  


              

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   New year lunch - Cumbria
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      Tony H
amnett  

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   Re: New year lunch - Cumbria
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      John Davison  


              

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   Querimba Days 1950
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      Peter Beattie  

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   Re: Querimba Days 1950
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Posted by:      "Geoff Parker"      
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      Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:34 am        (PST)    


    

            Tom,



You asked about Querimba and Sofala, inter alia.

My first ship as 3/O was Garbeta- an uneventful trip from RAD to Dundee,

Boulogne, M'brough, Antwerp, London again, then Port Said, Suez,Jeddah,

Massawa, Aden, Colombo, Madras (I'll never get used to the new name) &

Calcutta. A shifting chitty awaited me, and I joined Querimba for a

counter-clockwise trip round Australia, starting at Vizag, Madras, Tuticorin

& Colombo, then calling at Fremantle, Melbourne, Port Loncoln, Port Pirie,

Adelaide (where we managed to watch part of the MCC v South Australia

match - Peter Beattie, who was a ca
det, will remember), then Sydney,

Brisbane & Singapore. In Melbourne I landed on my feet. A maiden aunt of

mine was a buyer at Harrods, and had an Australian assistant who before I

left London gave me a list of contacts in Melbourne, which I duly used to

great advantage. It turned out that said girl, whose name escapes me, was a

niece of the premier of Victoria, so I had plenty of parties and a hunting

trip (I managed to get just one rabbit!). In Sydney we were also lucky,

because it was home to another cadet, Murray Brookes, whose father had been

Commodore, and had recently been knighted. I remember that three of us went

by taxi to pick Murray up from his home, and made a dreadful faux pas by

addressing his mother as Mrs Brookes. She was now of course Lady Brookes,

and was quite offended. Several times we all went dancing, and I had a brief

flirtation with Murray's sister. Not much here about Querimba, I'm afraid.

Her master was Captain Barnard, but I don't recall any other names. At

Brisbane we loaded goodness knows how many brombies bound for Malaya as

remounts, after a hoard of carpenters had descended on us to build the

stalls. Some horses did not survive the trip and somewhere I have a picture

of a dead horse being hoisted overboard to be dumped in the Timor Sea, no

doubt a tasty snack for the sharks.

Now to Sofala. At Singapore on  the return from Australia I had been shifted

to Kilwa, and we did many runs from S'pore20to Chittagong before switching

back to her previous home on the African coast. During my time on the

Mombasa/Durban run I took leave in Durban to sit for my mate's ticket, and

then joined Sofala to chase Kilwa up the coast. I eventually rejoined her in

Mombasa. My time on Sofala was like a holiday after studying and sitting

exams in Durban. I was signed on as supernumerary 3/O, but my only duties

were to relieve the watchkeepers for their meals. Apart from that I just

read a lot and drank beer. I can't decipher the name of the Sofala's master

in my discharge book.

I doubt that the above will help you with your collection, but it has been

fun to recall old times.

Salaams

Geoff Parker



          
 
    

      

        
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Posted by:      "John Prescott"      
      wreckage at ninetynorth.com      
               
        
          ozardareiver 
        
          

    

      Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:58 am        (PST)    


    

            Photos of the lunchtime gathering at Mount Bures on Nov 28 are now

posted in the photos section at:



http://finance. ph.groups. yahoo.com/ group/BIship/ photos/browse/ 2465



Regards

John



          
 
    

      

        
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        Re: Keeping the flag flying!      
    

    
Posted by:      "Alistair (Sandy) Yeats"      
      sandyyeats at hotmail.com      
               
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      Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:40 am        (PST)    


    

            Hello Tom

How are things?

Just catching up with all the news after a somewhat long absence.



I was a cadet on the Socotra in 1963 after being transferred from the 

Ozarda in Penang .  My career progression up to that point was 

Nevasa…. Kenya ….then  Ozarda…starting at the top and working my way 

down as Commodore Ben Rogers said when I moved from Nevasa to Kenya  

in 1962.



Joined the Socotra (Capt Pitcairn then Capt Turk, C/o  Maud then 

Lester, 2/o Ted Alexander, 3/o Mike Harvey, Cadets Max Baroni & Henry 

Tristram ) and we proceeded to Bangkok where we loaded 123 water 

buffalo on deck for the knackery in Hong Kong. Part of the cadet's 

duties was to keep the beasts well fed and watered en route for which 

we received a bonus of five pounds each.  The animals were discharged 

by rope slings round the middle (looked painful) into the junks that 

transported them to the abattoirs. 



We then sailed for the Philippines to load for Europe and called at 

the unusual ports of San Fernando and Tabaco City before berthing in 

Manila during the wild Marcos days. 

We also called at Tobruk in Libya and Leixoes in Portugal on the way 

back to London. Can't remember20if we loaded any port though. Big 

rolling swell as we entered the harbour.

We also spent a fair amount of time applying thistlebond patches to 

the accommodation block as we sailed through the Mediterranean in 

preparation for the Atlantic seas.



The Morvada visited Gan Atoll in 1971 on her maiden voyage. We 

anchored in the lagoon and I remember 3rd Engr George Cook swam 

ashore from the anchorage just for the exercise!



Earlier this year I sailed with the  RAF harbour pilot ( Capt Mike 

Head) who was based there in the sixties. We refuelled the high speed 

cats in the Maldives at Male harbour en route to Muscat. I have been 

there five times for refuelling in the last two years. It's getting 

to be a pleasant habit. Four aluminium ferries and a 56 metre motor 

yacht. Wish I could say it was mine! 



Whilst at the anchorage our radar upset communications reception at 

the presidential palace located on the waterfront so we were ordered 

by the coastguard to turn it off. They now have a new president 

(democratically elected) !

Hot off the press…. AARU are currently are building a deep water 

berth on the south side of Thilafushi Island which will be able to 

take 15000 ton ships. Estimated to be completed in mid  2009

The Island has been built up by using a large proportion of the 

capital's garbage as landfill and is the industrial centre for the 

main island. Cement works, gas tanks etc
not very scenic however the 

tourists don't go there. You can have a drink in Male if you travel 

via ferry to the airport hotel, good food as well. Fresh Tuna of 

course.



salaams to all



Sandy Yeats



          
 
    

      

        
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        Re: Keeping the flag flying!      
    

    
Posted by:      "Cattiolo at aol.com"      
      Cattiolo at aol.com      
               
        
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      Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:15 am        (PST)    


    

            

 Sandy,



I was interested to pick up on your comment re your fellow cadet on
Socotra in1963 as being one Henry Tristram.  As an Old=2
0Conway, there
was a fellow term member of this name (58-60) who was a good buddy of
mine, but I lost touch.  Actually, as I recall his real name was David
Tristram, but for reasons I cannot recall he adopted the name "Henry".
I was unaware that he had joined BI and have always been somewhat
curious as to what happened to him.  At school (assuming it is the same
person), amongst other attributes, he excelled at sports, particularly
athletics.  His father was involved in operating the then BP
desalinization plant in Kuwait as I recall.



I doubt that you have any knowledge of him since, but just wondered if you are able to fill in any of the blanks.



Thanks.



Ian



-----Original Message-----

From: Alistair (Sandy) Yeats <sandyyeats at hotmail. com>

To: BIship at yahoogroups. com

Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 8:40 am

Subject: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!



Hello Tom



How are things?



Just catching up with all the news after a somewhat long absence.



I was a cadet on the Socotra in 1963 after being transferred from the 



Ozarda in Penang .  My career progression up to that point was 



Nevasa.... Kenya ....then  Ozarda...starting at the top and working my way 



down as Commodore Ben Rogers said when I moved from Ne

vasa to Kenya  



in 1962.



Joined the Socotra (Capt Pitcairn then Capt Turk, C/o  Maud then 



Lester, 2/o Ted Alexander, 3/o Mike Harvey, Cadets Max Baroni & Henry 



Tristra
m ) and we proceeded to Bangkok where we loaded 123 water 



buffalo on deck for the knackery in Hong Kong. Part of the cadet's 



duties was to keep the beasts well fed and watered en route for which 



we received a bonus of five pounds each.  The animals were discharged 



by rope slings round the middle (looked painful) into the junks that 



transported them to the abattoirs. 



We then sailed for the Philippines to load for Europe and called at 



the unusual ports of San Fernando and Tabaco City before berthing in 



Manila during the wild Marcos days. 



We also called at Tobruk in Libya and Leixoes in Portugal on the way 



back to London. Can't remember if we loaded any port though. Big 



rolling swell as we entered the harbour.



We also spent a fair amount of time applying thistlebond patches to 



the accommodation block as we sailed through the Mediterranean in 



preparation for the Atlantic seas.



The Morvada visited Gan Atoll in 1971 on her maiden voyage. We 



anchored in the lagoon and I remember 3rd Engr George Cook swam 



ashore from the anchorage just for the exercise!



Earlier this year I sailed with the  RAF harbour pilot ( Capt Mike 



Head) who was based there in the sixties. We refuelled the high speed 



cats in the Maldives=2

0at Male harbour en route to Muscat. I have been 



there five times for refuelling in the last tw
o years. It's getting 



to be a pleasant habit. Four aluminium ferries and a 56 metre motor 



yacht. Wish I could say it was mine! 



Whilst at the anchorage our radar upset communications reception at 



the presidential palace located on the waterfront so we were ordered 



by the coastguard to turn it off. They now have a new president 



(democratically elected) !



Hot off the press.... AARU are currently are building a deep water 



berth on the south side of Thilafushi Island which will be able to 



take 15000 ton ships. Estimated to be completed in mid  2009



The Island has been built up by using a large proportion of the 



capital's garbage as landfill and is the industrial centre for the 



main island. Cement works, gas tanks etc...not very scenic however the 



tourists don't go there. You can have a drink in Male if you travel 



via ferry to the airport hotel, good food as well. Fresh Tuna of 



course.



salaams to all



Sandy Yeats



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        Re: Pat Jackson,      
    

    
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      Derek.Ings at talktalk.net      
               
        
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      Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:41 am        (PST)    


    

I'm sure that Tom is correct that Pat Jackson's middle name was
"Stonewall". He was awarded the Royal Humane Society's medal for his
bravery in saving the lady passenger's life in Dunkirk - she fell into
the dock between the ship's hull and the dockside.



Derek



----- Original Message ----- 

  From: TEKelso at aol. com 

  To: BIship at yahoogroups. com 

  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:03 AM

  Subject: [BIship] Pat Jackson,



Tony (gates)



Thanks for that sad news of Pat's demise. Please pass on my sympathy to his 

  wife.



I remember him as P.C.S. Jackson, and IMMRC the "S" stood for "Stonewall" He 

  was a stalwart of the cricket (and I think hockey team) along with Ian 

  Tomkins, Buzz Bee and Pat
rick Moore., altho I can't remember whether 

  "stonewalling" was a particular forte of his!



Regards



Tom



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        Re: Raiders      
    

    
Posted by:      "Robert Readman"      
      rjreadman at yahoo.co.uk      
               
        
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      Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:00 am        (PST)    


    

            Hi Richard,

 

I was one of 'em.

 

But given what I witnessed behind closed doors in the kitchens of the=0
ACorner Houses it was more a cse of learning what NOT to do !!!   I saw
some horrific things.

 

On my first day I witnessed a kitchen hand filling milk jugs by dipping
them into a large churn and then wiping them off.   Each time his
entire hand and halh his arm disappeared beneath the surface of the
milk.   Great for his skin though!

 

Salaams

Bob Readman



--- On Wed, 10/12/08, Richard Wilson <richard at macdonaldwi lson.fsnet. co.uk> wrote:



From: Richard Wilson <richard at macdonaldwi lson.fsnet. co.uk>

Subject: Re: [BIship] Raiders

To: BIship at yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 11:09 AM



When certain Pursers were sent to Joe Lyons for Catering training, I
remember hearing that they were training for their 'Curry and Rice
Endorsement' .

Dick Wilson



----- Original Message ----- 

From: TEKelso at aol. com 

To: BIship at yahoogroups. com 

Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:13 PM

Subject: [BIship] Raiders



Ron (Thomas)



Most interesting to read that (Captain) Alan Stevens "obtained" his Master's 

ticket while in a POW camp. While I think I have read of POW's sitting for 

degrees, perhaps under the auspices and supervision of the Swiss Red Cross, I 

had not heard of BOT/MOWT certificates being so obtained. As Alan was 

probably in a camp where some of the other POW's were British MN shipmasters, or 

holders of Master's certificate perhaps they were delegated to hold the oral 

section of the examin
ation. [ One hopes that his "superior certificate allowance 

was duly credited and backdated!]" Has anyone more details of this 

examination arrangement? 



While there was an expression "curry & rice ticket" and indeed I had the 

randang version of lst Mate (Singapore), this perhaps was a "bierworst" version!



Tom



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        River Elbe Ceremony      
    

    
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by:      "Dave Tuthill"      
      davidtuthill at tinyworld.co.uk      
               
        
          dehenryt 
        
          

    

      Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:20 am        (PST)    


    

            The name of the place on the Elbe for playing the National Anthem is WEDEL.

Whenever a ship passes the station on the river bank at Wedel inbound the

national flag of the ship's home country is raised, then dipped, and the

national anthem is played.

I witnessed this some three years ago on a visit to Hamburg. I believe it is

possible on the 'tourist circuit' to visit the station and have a meal in

the restaurant there. I think the playing of the anthems is all computerised

nowadays.

Dave



          
 
    

      

        
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        Curry and Rice ticket      
    

    
Posted by:      "Roger Northcote"      
      northcote_roger at yahoo.co.uk      
               
        
          northcote_roger 
        
          

    

      Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:38 am        (PST)    


    

            Bob,



Your dead right there : the standard of health and hygiene were 

horrific in the Lyons Corner Houses. Whilst I was there  one day a 

joint fell on the Kitchen floor and it was wiped clean with a filthy  

dishcloth.John Prescott was on the course with me and he can no 

doubt  vouch for the state of the Kitchens. Sam and Ella  were 

definately on the catering "payroll".

The Head Chef was permantently pissed on Cooking Sherry : he kept a 

bottle in his Office filing cabinet under "A" for alcohol!!! I once 

gave a French student an extra ladle of peas in the Cafeteria. The 

self same  Chef blew his top and gave me an expletive filled lecture 

on portion control.I am surprised that the bread wasn't 

buttered/marged army style i.e with a shaving brush!!!! I can't say 

the Lyon's course was very beneficial with regard to my B.I.career. 

The follow up Chief Stewards course for 12 weeks at the Liverpool=2
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Nautical Catering College was far more useful. I returned a few years 

later and got my Chief Cooks ticket but that was with a different 

outfit. 



Salaams

Roger 



          
 
    

      

        
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        New year lunch - Cumbria      
    

    
Posted by:      "Tony Hamnett"      
      tonyhamnett at btinternet.com      
               
        
          a512409 
        
          

    

      Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:43 am        (PST)    


    

            For the last few years four of us have met for a boys-only new year 

lunch in Appleby-in- Westmoreland.

This year we're meeting on 3rd Jan and decided we=2
0should invite anyone 

else who is interested.

Location is the Royal Oak (website link below) and we're meeting at 

around 12:30pm. Whilst Appleby is not the most convenient of locations 

it's a pleasant ride out (in the right weather) and hopefully there are 

a few of you who live within striking distance.



It's an informal lunch but please let me know if you intend to join us. 

If there's a lot of interest I would like to inform the Royal Oak in 

advance.



For info those already committed are Bob Dobie, Alisdair MacIntosh, 

Brian Parke and Tony Hamnett.



http://www.royaloak appleby.co. uk/



          
 
    

      

        
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        Re: New year lunch - Cumbria      
    

    
Posted by:      "John Davison"      
      davison.g at xtra.co.nz      
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      Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:24 pm        (PST)    


    

            Does Stan Harrison attend yr meetings as I think he lives in Carlisle ?



salaams 



John Davison

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Tony Hamnett 

  To: BIship at yahoogroups. com 

  Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:43 AM

  Subject: [BIship] New year lunch - Cumbria



For the last few years four of us have met for a boys-only new year 

  lunch in Appleby-in- Westmoreland.

  This year we're meeting on 3rd Jan and decided we should invite anyone 

  else who is interested.

  Location is the Royal Oak (website link below) and we're meeting at 

  around 12:30pm. Whilst Appleby is not the most convenient of locations 

  it's a pleasant ride out (in the right weather) and hopefully there are 

  a few of you who live within striking distance.



It's an informal lunch but please let me know if you intend to join us. 

  If there's a lot of interest I would like to inform the Royal Oak in 

  advance.



For info those already committed are Bob Dobie, Alisdair MacIntosh, 

  Brian Parke and Tony Hamnett.



http://www.royaloak appleby.co. uk/



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        Querimba Days 1950      
    

    
Posted by:      "Peter Beattie"      
      beattie at paradise.net.nz      
               
        
          peter_beattie 
        
          

    

      Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:40 pm        (PST)    


    

            Moderator may have to do something with these photos. All taken in 1950



012 shews Geoff Parker and Hughie Gavin from the Kilwa up to something in the Malayan jungle.

011 Self, Geoff and Sparls in our pipe moking beer drinking days on Querimba

010 2 shots of the Que
rimba the greyhound of the East, dead horse being
slung overboard and two of the fellows who looked after the horses on
the trip.



I can remember quite clearly all of Geoffs adventures in Melbourne --
takes some sort of trigger to pull but it all comes back.



The mate was C W Allerton a most offensive fellow and the other Cadet
was Dave Humphreys who is now a ship owner in the US --- I have contact
with him still. 2nd mate was an Englishman living in Sydney but his
name has gone.



I was on the Querimba from November 49 to March 51  --  at that stage I was bitten by a jackal and ended up in Colomo hospital



Happy days



Peter Beattie

Wellington NZ



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        Re: Querimba Days 1950      
    


    
Posted by:      "John Davison"      
      davison.g at xtra.co.nz      
          

    

      Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:44 am        (PST)    


    

            WELL WISH I CAN OPEN TO SEE THE PHOTOS , BUT NO CAN DO .



IF IT IS THE HUGH GAVIN I KNEW DURING HK SAILING DAYS , HE DIED MID 6OS
, HEART ATTACK ON A PAKISTAN SHIP AS C/O , NOT GOOD CIRCUMSTANCES .



JOHN DAVISON

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Peter Beattie 

  To: BIship at yahoogroups. com 

  Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:40 PM

  Subject: [BIship] Querimba Days 1950



Moderator may have to do something with these photos. All taken in 1950



012 shews Geoff Parker and Hughie Gavin from the Kilwa up to something in the Malayan jungle.

  011 Self, Geoff and Sparls in our pipe moking beer drinking days on Querimba

010 2 shots of the Querimba the greyhound of the East, dead horse being
slung overboard and two of the fellows who looked after the horses on
the trip.



I can remember quite clearly all of Geoffs adventures in Melbourne -- takes some sort of trigger to pull but it all comes back.



The mate was C W Allerton a most offensive fellow and the other Cadet
was Dave Humphreys who is now a ship owner in the US --- I have contact
with him still. 2nd mate was an Englishman living in Sydney but his
name has gone.



I was on t
he Querimba from November 49 to March 51 -- at that stage I was bitten by a jackal and ended up in Colomo hospital



Happy days



Peter Beattie

  Wellington NZ



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1a. 


   raiders
  From: 
      William Power  

1b. 


   Re: raiders
  From: 
      Ronald Thomas  


              

2a. 


   unusual ports
  From: 
      William Power  


              

3a. 


   Unusual ports
  From: 
      William Power  


              

4a. 


   Re: Keeping the flag flying!
  From: 
      Geoff Woodland  

4b. 


   Re: Keeping the flag flying!
  From: 
      Jim Devine  

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   Re: Keeping the flag flying!
  From: 
      Cattiolo at aol.com  


              

5a. 


   angry old man
  From: 
      William Power  

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   Re: angry old man
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      Peter Fielding  


              

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   Jo Lyons
  From: 
      J and P Thompson  

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   Re: Jo Lyons
  From: 
      Jim Devine  


              

7a. 


   Re: Querimba Days 1950
  From: 
      Jim Devine  


              

8a. 


   Re: Curry and Rice ticket
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Cant make out which ship was ref to, Ron, was it the Empire Light?, if
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        Re: raiders      
    

    
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:45 am        (PST)    


    

            Bill   I was referring to Nowshera v Pinguin 1940.  Ron



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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:29 am        (PST)    


    

            

Starting a 3 month Med cruise in the Brit, first stop Halifax NS,
funchal, Gib, barcelona, Naples (for Sorrento/Amalfi) Vernice.Rhodes,
Corfu,Crete, Alex (for Cairo)Haifa (for Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Nazareth,
and all the other places we used to go to in BI etc. There were 7 of us
(plus i el/o)on a watch and i was on the 12-4, we bought two cases os
Gordons, plus a case of Anchovies in Gib, and every morn after our
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        Unusual ports      
    

    
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:31 am        (PST)    


    

            

Definitely wasnt Hamburg was in there a few times20, could have been Bremerhaven, but from memory was bremen. Bill Power.

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        Re: Keeping the flag flying!      
    

    
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:31 am        (PST)    


    

            Like you Ian, I am interested in 
hearing about Henry Tristram as I played in 

the same rugby team with him

at Conway in 1960 to 61 - he left in in 61 and I left in 62.

Last I heard was that he was working in Birmingham (heard on the Conway chat 

group)

- this was about 3 or 4 years ago but don't know if this was fact - all 

hearsay.



Henry could run like the wind as a three quarter in the 1st XV

salaams

Geoff



----- Original Message ----- 

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To: <BIship at yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:15 AM

Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!



Sandy,



I was interested to pick up on your comment re your fellow cadet on Socotra 

in1963 as being one Henry Tristram. As an Old Conway, there was a fellow 

term member of this name (58-60) who was a good buddy of mine, but I lost 

touch. Actually, as I recall his real name was David Tristram, but for 

reasons I cannot recall he adopted the name "Henry". I was unaware that he 

had joined BI and have always been somewhat curious as to what happened to 

him. At school (assuming it is the same person), amongst other attributes, 

he excelled at sports, particularly athletics. His father was involved in 

operating the then BP desalinization plant in Kuwait as I recall.



I doubt that you have any knowledge of him since, but just wondered if you 

are able to fill in any of the blanks.



Thanks.



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        Re: Keeping the flag flying!      
    

    
Posted by:      "Jim Devine"      
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:50 am        (PST)    


    

            Hello Sandy,

Just a quickie to let you know that Annie is leaving this evening for
London to visit with he
r family. This is the first time they will all
be in the same place together for the first time in many years. I am
taking the liberty of sending greetings from you to Gillian and the
family, hope you do not mind the presumption!

Have a wonderful Christmas and New Year, and here I extend my greetings to all our group members!

Kindest regards,

Jim D.



----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Alistair (Sandy) Yeats 

  To: BIship at yahoogroups. com 

  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:40 PM

  Subject: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!



Hello Tom

  How are things?

  Just catching up with all the news after a somewhat long absence.



I was a cadet on the Socotra in 1963 after being transferred from the 

  Ozarda in Penang . My career progression up to that point was 

  Nevasa.. Kenya ..then Ozarda.starting at the top and working my way 

  down as Commodore Ben Rogers said when I moved from Nevasa to Kenya 

  in 1962.



Joined the Socotra (Capt Pitcairn then Capt Turk, C/o Maud then 

  Lester, 2/o Ted Alexander, 3/o Mike Harvey, Cadets Max Baroni & Henry 

  Tristram ) and we proceeded to Bangkok where we loaded 123 water 

  buffalo on deck for the knackery in Hong Kong. Part of the cadet's 

  duties was to keep the beasts well fed and watered en route for which 

  we received a bonus of five pounds each. The animals were discharged 

  by rope slings round the middle (loo
ked painful) into the junks that 

  transported them to the abattoirs. 



We then sailed for the Philippines to load for Europe and called at 

  the unusual ports of San Fernando and Tabaco City before berthing in 

  Manila during the wild Marcos days. 

  We also called at Tobruk in Libya and Leixoes in Portugal on the way 

  back to London. Can't remember if we loaded any port though. Big 

  rolling swell as we entered the harbour.

  We also spent a fair amount of time applying thistlebond patches to 

  the accommodation block as we sailed through the Mediterranean in 

  preparation for the Atlantic seas.



The Morvada visited Gan Atoll in 1971 on her maiden voyage. We 

  anchored in the lagoon and I remember 3rd Engr George Cook swam 

  ashore from the anchorage just for the exercise!



Earlier this year I sailed with the RAF harbour pilot ( Capt Mike 

  Head) who was based there in the sixties. We refuelled the high speed 

  cats in the Maldives at Male harbour en route to Muscat. I have been 

  there five times for refuelling in the last two years. It's getting 

  to be a pleasant habit. Four aluminium ferries and a 56 metre motor 

  yacht. Wish I could say it was mine! 



Whilst at the anchorage our radar upset communications reception at 

  the presidential palace located on the waterfront so we were ordered 

  by the coastguard to turn it off. They now=2
0have a new president 

  (democratically elected) !

  Hot off the press.. AARU are currently are building a deep water 

  berth on the south side of Thilafushi Island which will be able to 

  take 15000 ton ships. Estimated to be completed in mid 2009

  The Island has been built up by using a large proportion of the 

  capital's garbage as landfill and is the industrial centre for the 

  main island. Cement works, gas tanks etc.not very scenic however the 

  tourists don't go there. You can have a drink in Male if you travel 

  via ferry to the airport hotel, good food as well. Fresh Tuna of 

  course.



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        Re: Keeping the flag flying!      
    

    
Posted by:      "Cattiolo at aol.com"      
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:28 am        (PST)    


    

            

 Geoff,



Thanks for the response.? If I may digress from things BI (with the
moderator's blessing - although it is BI related), Henry Tristram was
in the Hold Division, as was I and we both joined as New Chums in
1958.? As you mention, he was a heck of a rugby player and won all
manner of awards, but as I recall, he had very little respect for
authority in general!? While I am a member of the Club - I'm not a
group member - and I've seen no mention of his name.? Maybe that's a
course I'll pursue (particularly as I still have family in the
Birmingham area).? By the way, I do have some recollection of your
name, so perhaps our paths did cross?



As an aside, wasn't the Socotra a one time P&O vessel?



Regards,



Ian



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From: Geoff Woodland <woodlandagency@ bigpond.com>

To: BIship at yahoogroups. com

Sent: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 5:31 am

Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!



Like you Ian,
 I am interested in hearing about Henry Tristram as I played in 



the same rugby team with him



at Conway in 1960 to 61 - he left in in 61 and I left in 62.



Last I heard was that he was working in Birmingham (heard on the Conway chat 



group)



- this was about 3 or 4 years ago but don't know if this was fact - all 



hearsay.



Henry could run like the wind as a three quarter in the 1st XV



salaams



Geoff



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To: <BIship at yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:15 AM



Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!



Sandy,



I was interested to pick up on your comment re your fellow cadet on Socotra 



in1963 as being one Henry Tristram. As an Old Conway, there was a fellow 



term member of this name (58-60) who was a good buddy of mine, but I lost 



touch. Actually, as I recall his real name was David Tristram, but for 



reasons I cannot recall he adopted the name "Henry". I was unaware that he 



had joined BI and have always been somewhat curious as to what happened to 



him. At school (assuming it is the same person), amongst other attributes, 



he excelled at sports, particularly athletics. His father was involved in 



operating the then BP desalinization plant in Kuwait as I recall.



I doubt that you have any knowledge of him since, but just=2
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are able to fill in any of the blanks.



Thanks.



Ian



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        angry old man      
    

    
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      Fr
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Her indoors said to me the other day, (using my sunday name )which
annoys me, you will have to watch it William, how,s that? its in the
paper that they have just given an elderly man an asbo for swearing at
the telly in a loud voice, no answer to that!. Bill Power

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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:04 am        (PST)    


    

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> Her indoors said to me the other day, (using my sunday name )which 

annoys me, you will have to watch it William, how,s that? its in the 

paper that they have just given an elderly man an asbo for swearing at 

the telly in a loud voice, no answer to that!. Bill Power

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I can relate to that, Bill. Our t.v. comes in for more than it's fair 

share of b****kings. Not the fault of the telly, it's the idiots who 

appear on it.

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        Jo Lyons      
    

    
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:56 am        (PST)    


    

            Hola Roger & Bob    



I can also remember some horrific scenes in the kitchens - on about day
one at the Coventry Street Corner House I was told to mix up the Cole
Slaw for the day - shown a vat and the ingredients and on enquiring
'how is to be mixed' was told to 'roll up my sleeves, get your hands in
there and get on with it' - I duly obliged with Cole Slaw up to my
elbows!



The best part of the training course was meeting the meat buyer in
Smithfield market at 4.30 a.m. or thereabouts, going round with him and
then disappearing into the pub for a couple of pints and a bacon sarnie
at 6.30 a.m. - Billingsgate wasn't nearly so accommodating nor Covent
Garden, I think.



That was July - Sept. 1964 - when were you two there?



Hasta luego



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        Re: Jo Lyons      
    

    
Posted by:      "Jim Devine"      
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:30 am        (PST)    


    

            Greetings All,

Best story I heard was Archie Curray's failing the final exam for
Catering Purser - when asked to sketch and describe a rice pudding he
forgot to include the raisins!

Jim D.

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  Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:56 PM

  Su
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Hola Roger & Bob 



I can also remember some horrific scenes in the kitchens - on about day
one at the Coventry Street Corner House I was told to mix up the Cole
Slaw for the day - shown a vat and the ingredients and on enquiring
'how is to be mixed' was told to 'roll up my sleeves, get your hands in
there and get on with it' - I duly obliged with Cole Slaw up to my
elbows!



The best part of the training course was meeting the meat buyer in
Smithfield market at 4.30 a.m. or thereabouts, going round with him and
then disappearing into the pub for a couple of pints and a bacon sarnie
at 6.30 a.m. - Billingsgate wasn't nearly so accommodating nor Covent
Garden, I think.



That was July - Sept. 1964 - when were you two there?



Hasta luego



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        Re: Querimba Days 1950      
    

    
Posted by:      "Jim Devine"      
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:21 am        (PST)    


    

            John,

Click on heading New Photos in column to right of your message and this
will take you to Yahoo Groups, i.e. BIship. Enter your ID and Password
and you are in! Good luck,

Jim D.



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  Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:44 AM

  Subject: Re: [BIship] Querimba Days 1950



WELL WISH I CAN OPEN TO SEE THE PHOTOS , BUT NO CAN DO .



IF IT IS THE HUGH GAVIN I KNEW DURING HK SAILING DAYS , HE DIED MID 6OS
, HEART ATTACK ON A PAKISTAN SHIP AS C/O , NOT GOOD CIRCUMSTANCES .



JOHN DAVISON

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  To: BIship at yahoogroups. com 

  Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:
40 PM

  Subject: [BIship] Querimba Days 1950



Moderator may have to do something with these photos. All taken in 1950



012 shews Geoff Parker and Hughie Gavin from the Kilwa up to something in the Malayan jungle.

  011 Self, Geoff and Sparls in our pipe moking beer drinking days on Querimba

010 2 shots of the Querimba the greyhound of the East, dead horse being
slung overboard and two of the fellows who looked after the horses on
the trip.



I can remember quite clearly all of Geoffs adventures in Melbourne -- takes some sort of trigger to pull but it all comes back.



The mate was C W Allerton a most offensive fellow and the other Cadet
was Dave Humphreys who is now a ship owner in the US --- I have contact
with him still. 2nd mate was an Englishman living in Sydney but his
name has gone.



I was on the Querimba from November 49 to March 51 -- at that stage I was bitten by a jackal and ended up in Colomo hospital



Happy days



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        Re: Curry and Rice ticket      
    

    
Posted by:      "Robert Readman"      
      rjreadman at yahoo.co.uk      
               
        
          rjreadman 
        
          

    

      Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:14 am        (PST)    


    

            Hi Roger!

 

The more I think about my time with Lyons - the more I recall.

 

Remember how salads would be pre-plated on display in the self-service restaurants?

 

One day I watched as one lady removed salads from the display because
they had been 
under the lights for too long - greens had wilted,
beetroot and carrot had dried up and the ice-cream sized scoops of
potato salad had developed a rather unappetising crust.

 

Thrown away?   No such thing.   The lettuce was dipped in iced water to
revive it.  Dried beetroot was dipped in vinegar and to my utter digust
the ball of potato salad was picked up with bare hands, deftly
manipulated so that the dried up crust was on the inside,   Replated,
it was soon back on display.

 

On my last day at the Coventry Street(?) Corner House I was walking
with the manager through one of the restaurants - he puffing away on a
cigarette.   Looking for somewhere to ditch the butt, he spotted a
dirty coffe/tea cup on a table and dropped the fag end in to it -
completely oblivious to (or deliberately ignoring) the fact that an
elderly  lady was sitting 

on the other side of the table eating her meal!!!

 

The other thing that astonished me was the way meat was plated up ready
for service during lunch - stacked in piles - meat/plate/meat/ plate
and so on with nothing separating the meat from the plate on top of
it.   Made for very messy service as often when the server picked up a
plate - the meat from the plate underneath was stuck to the bottom of
it!

 

I suspect those of us lucky enough to have undergone the Lyons Experience have enough anecdotes between us to write a book.

 

God knows what=2
0would have happened had Joe Lyons' establishments been
subjected to the kind of galley inspections carried out by the Captain
and C/O aboard ship.

 

Keep 'em coming!

 

Salaams

Bob

 

 



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From: Roger Northcote <northcote_roger@ yahoo.co. uk>

Subject: [BIship] Curry and Rice ticket

To: BIship at yahoogroups. com

Date: Thursday, 11 December, 2008, 5:38 PM



Bob,



Your dead right there : the standard of health and hygiene were 

horrific in the Lyons Corner Houses. Whilst I was there one day a 

joint fell on the Kitchen floor and it was wiped clean with a filthy 

dishcloth.John Prescott was on the course with me and he can no 

doubt vouch for the state of the Kitchens. Sam and Ella were 

definately on the catering "payroll".

The Head Chef was permantently pissed on Cooking Sherry : he kept a 

bottle in his Office filing cabinet under "A" for alcohol!!! I once 

gave a French student an extra ladle of peas in the Cafeteria. The 

self same Chef blew his top and gave me an expletive filled lecture 

on portion control.I am surprised that the bread wasn't 

buttered/marged army style i.e with a shaving brush!!!! I can't say 

the Lyon's course was very beneficial with regard to my B.I.career. 

The follow up Chief Stewards course for 12 weeks at the Liverpool 

Nautical Catering College was far more useful. I returned a few years 

l
ater and got my Chief Cooks ticket but that was with a different 

outfit. 



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        Re: Curry and Rice ticket      
    

    
Posted by:      "Robert Readman"      
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:17 am        (PST)    


    

            



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From: Roger Northcote <northcote_roger@ yahoo.co. uk>

Subject: [BIship] Curry and Rice ticket

To: BIship at yahoogroups. com

Date: Thur
sday, 11 December, 2008, 5:38 PM



Bob,



Your dead right there : the standard of health and hygiene were 

horrific in the Lyons Corner Houses. Whilst I was there one day a 

joint fell on the Kitchen floor and it was wiped clean with a filthy 

dishcloth.John Prescott was on the course with me and he can no 

doubt vouch for the state of the Kitchens. Sam and Ella were 

definately on the catering "payroll".

The Head Chef was permantently pissed on Cooking Sherry : he kept a 

bottle in his Office filing cabinet under "A" for alcohol!!! I once 

gave a French student an extra ladle of peas in the Cafeteria. The 

self same Chef blew his top and gave me an expletive filled lecture 

on portion control.I am surprised that the bread wasn't 

buttered/marged army style i.e with a shaving brush!!!! I can't say 

the Lyon's course was very beneficial with regard to my B.I.career. 

The follow up Chief Stewards course for 12 weeks at the Liverpool 

Nautical Catering College was far more useful. I returned a few years 

later and got my Chief Cooks ticket but that was with a different 

outfit. 



Salaams

Roger 



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        Re: New year lunch - Cumbria      
    

    
Posted by:      "Tony Hamnett"      
      tonyhamnett at btinternet.com      
               
        
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:20 am        (PST)    


    

            --- In BIship at yahoogroups. com, "John Davison" <davison.g at . ..> wrote:

>

> Does Stan Harrison attend yr meetings as I think he lives in 

Carlisle ?

> 

> salaams 

> 

> John Davison



Not up to now John and can't find his contact details in the members 

list.

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        Re: New year lunch - Cumbria      
    

    
Posted by:      "John Davison"      
      davison.g at xtra.co.nz      
          

    

      Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:41 pm        (PST)    


    

            Thanks Tony ,



Sorry I do not know of Stan's address etc , Stan was 2/e/0 on Chakdara and I think repeat think made it to c/e/o .

I last saw Stan in HK mid 70s and he was a superintendent for a ship
management company , perhaps it was Clyde or Scottish Ship management ,
but definitely from some where in the NW and he came from Carlisle ,
and or that area !!



Salaams 



John

----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Tony Hamnett 

  To: BIship at yahoogroups. com 

  Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 6:19 AM

  Subject: [BIship] Re: New year lunch - Cumbria



--- In BIship at yahoogroups. com, "John Davison" <davison.g at . ..> wrote:

  >

  > Does Stan Harrison attend yr meetings as I think he lives in 


  Carlisle ?

  > 

  > salaams 

  > 

  > John Davison



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  list.

  Do you have his e-mail address?

  Tony



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        Re: Henry Tristram      
    

    
Posted by:      "Michael Jobson"      
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:47 pm        (PST)    


    

There seems to be some interest in David (Henry) Tristram.  I have
replied to a particular posting on this group, but if it adds anything
Henry was a deck cadet with me in Queda in March-August 1963. We were
on a Gulf run and his father was certainly in Mina-al-Ahmedi at that
time. I was priviliged to go ashore with Henry and to meet his father
(it was not usual to get ashore in Mina). 

I do not recollect the Hold Division, was that Conway(?), and doubt
that Henry was with BI in 1958 as I was senior to him in 1963.

Henry Tristram must have taken sports very seriously - I understand he
was also a javelin throwing champion at Conway - as he spent some time
with chest-expanders and was very proud of his physique! There was not
much opportunity for sports on the tankers. Only bridge (the card game)
which we played a lot off watch.

I also lost touch with him not long after leaving Queda.

MJ



--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Cattiolo at aol. com <Cattiolo at aol. com> wrote:



From: Cattiolo at aol. com <Cattiolo at aol. com>

Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!

To: BIship at yahoogroups. com

Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 6:28 PM



Geoff,



Thanks for the response.? If I may digress from things BI (with the
moderator's blessing - although it is BI related), Henry Tristram was
in the Hold Division, as was I and we both joined as New20Chums in
1958.? As you mention, he was a heck of a rugby player and won all
manner of awards, but as I recall, he had very little respect for
authority in general!? While I am a member of the Club - I'm not a
group member - and I've seen no mention of his name.? Maybe that's a
course I'll pursue (particularly as I still have family in the
Birmingham area).? By the way, I do have some recollection of your
name, so perhaps our paths did cross?



As an aside, wasn't the Socotra a one time P&O vessel?



Regards,



Ian



-----Original Message-----



From: Geoff Woodland <woodlandagency@ bigpond.com>

To: BIship at yahoogroups. com

Sent: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 5:31 am

Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!



Like you Ian, I am interested in hearing about Henry Tristram as I played in 



the same rugby team with him



at Conway in 1960 to 61 - he left in in 61 and I left in 62.



Last I heard was that he was working in Birmingham (heard on the Conway chat 



group)



- this was about 3 or 4 years ago but don't know if this was fact - all 



hearsay.



Henry could run like the wind as a three quarter in the 1st XV



salaams



Geoff



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From: <Cattiolo at aol. com>



To: <BIship at yahoogroups . com>



Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:15 AM



Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!



Sandy,



I was interested to pick up on 
your comment re your fellow cadet on Socotra 



in1963 as being one Henry Tristram. As an Old Conway, there was a fellow 



term member of this name (58-60) who was a good buddy of mine, but I lost 



touch. Actually, as I recall his real name was David Tristram, but for 



reasons I cannot recall he adopted the name "Henry". I was unaware that he 



had joined BI and have always been somewhat curious as to what happened to 



him. At school (assuming it is the same person), amongst other attributes, 



he excelled at sports, particularly athletics. His father was involved in 



operating the then BP desalinization plant in Kuwait as I recall.



I doubt that you have any knowledge of him since, but just wondered if you 



are able to fill in any of the blanks.



Thanks.



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        Re: Henry Tristram      
    

    
Posted by:      "Geoff Woodland"      
      woodlandagency at bigpond.com      
               
        
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:12 pm        (PST)    


    

            Michael & Ian,



Henry has been found - via the Conway site, he now lives in Florida at 

Pampino Beach.

His Conway years were 59 - 61



>From memory the only place one could visit ashore in Mina was the seaman's 

corrugated hut, where the beer

was cheap, and fags & spirits were cheaper than on board the Ellenga. The 

seaman's hut was inside the compound

which was surround by a barbed wire fence & guards,



salaams

Geoff



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Michael Jobson" <mrjobson at yahoo. com>

To: <BIship at yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:47 AM

Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Henry Tristram



T
here seems to be some interest in David (Henry) Tristram. I have replied to 

a particular posting on this group, but if it adds anything Henry was a deck 

cadet with me in Queda in March-August 1963.  We were on a Gulf run and his 

father was certainly in Mina-al-Ahmedi at that time.  I was priviliged to go 

ashore with Henry and to meet his father (it was not usual to get ashore in 

Mina).

I do not recollect the Hold Division, was that Conway(?), and doubt that 

Henry was with BI in 1958 as I was senior to him in 1963.

Henry Tristram must have taken sports very seriously - I understand he was 

also a javelin throwing champion at Conway - as he spent some time with 

chest-expanders and was very proud of his physique!  There was not much 

opportunity for sports on the tankers. Only bridge (the card game) which we 

played a lot off watch.

I also lost touch with him not long after leaving Queda.

MJ



--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Cattiolo at aol. com <Cattiolo at aol. com> wrote:



From: Cattiolo at aol. com <Cattiolo at aol. com>

Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!

To: BIship at yahoogroups. com

Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 6:28 PM



Geoff,



Thanks for the response.? If I may digress from things BI (with the 

moderator's blessing - although it is BI related), Henry Tristram was in the 

Hold Division, as was I and we both joined as New Chums in 1958.? As you 

mention, he was a heck of a rugby player 
and won all manner of awards, but 

as I recall, he had very little respect for authority in general!? While I 

am a member of the Club - I'm not a group member - and I've seen no mention 

of his name.? Maybe that's a course I'll pursue (particularly as I still 

have family in the Birmingham area).? By the way, I do have some 

recollection of your name, so perhaps our paths did cross?



As an aside, wasn't the Socotra a one time P&O vessel?



Regards,



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 20      Querimba Days      
    

    
Posted by:      "Peter Beattie"      
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:23 pm        (PST)    


    

            My original email appeared without pictures.



Checked my Sent Box   --  and they are there alright.



Where else can they be ? ?



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        John Major - photos Kampala 1970      
    

    
Posted by:      "derek894652"      
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:30 pm        (PST)    


    

            John , some interesting photos (to me)

   I didn't know I had sailed with you , but there I am ,on 3 of your 

photos .some very familiar faces not seen for a very long time - john 

grocott , tony bennett , ken milne , terry matthews ,grace mclean just 

a few ,I am still looking !

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        DARA  SURVIVORS      
    

    
Posted by:      "John Davison"      
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:23 pm        (PST)    


    

Since Pat Jackson has just died , I have been asked by a BI friend not
on this web , to find out if any one knows of any BI survivors still
living , on the deck side names of persons not with us in addition to
Jackson are Charles Alexander 2/0 , 3/0 Hird or Herd , cadet Grimshaw ,
" think " the Master , Elson .



Cadet Ian Tew survives , but I have no news of the C/O Jordan , or any
knowledge regarding the Engineers , R/Os and Pursers ? , how ever I did
meet a surviving assistant purser some years ago in Bombay , name was
Da Silva , I think ?



Could any one assist please .



John Davison



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        Lyonaisse days      
    

    
Posted by:      "Roger Northcote"      
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:29 pm        (PST)    


    

            Pete,

 I did my "Curry and Rice " Ticket around 1970-71. The format was much 

the same : Billingsgate interesting. Saw a giganitic Turbot there for 

sale  : a Plaice on steriods!!!! !. Smithfield was great and I remember 

the early morning pints in the Pub. We also visited a firm that did the 

steaks for Berni Inns : 8 oz, 10oz, 12 oz, 16 oz : all compressed meat 

from different steers moulded into a strict weighed format/shape by a 

machine. The sign of things to come. Was assigned to the Chelsea flower 

show  as well : Morning suits were rig of the day. Also the Joe Lyons 

Experimental Kitchen : a kind of Frakensteins Catering Laboratory.Micro 

waves were coming in and we saw some cooking by same. Wasn't there a 

ship in the 70's which took on stores as microwavable meals for crew 

catering as an experiment. Think it was on a Home trade run.

Good days but health and hygiene was a nightmare : but perhaps then we 

were stronger. You have to eat a "peck" of
 dirt in your life as the 

saying goes and in this weird age with peanut allergies etc we have 

become a weaker people. Brinmg on the tripe and Onions!!!!



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        Keeping the flag flying      
    

    
Posted by:      "TEKelso at aol.com"      
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      Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:46 pm        (PST)    


    

            Hi there! Sandy,

 

Good to hear from you and that you are still on the "go" buzzing across the  

Indian Ocean. I found your original account  o
f the delivery voyage  logistics 

of these fast catamaran craft to points West, extremely interesting.  That, 

and some of the other onward progressions of our membership makes me think  

that there was indeed something special about our training in the BI! Maybe our  

introduction to Thistlebond at an early age, nurtured our ability to  

improvise!

 

In between contracts, are you still sailing about the North Queensland  coast?

 

Intrigued about your mention of 3/EO George Cook swimming ashore at Gan  from 

MORVADA. The sharks must have been "off their food" that day!  I  sailed with 

another George Cook for a year or two in KENYA. He was the Chief  Lecky and 

lived in Paisley. On leaving BI he managed the filling  station at Mearns 

Cross, Newton Mearns for a few years..though he never gave me  a penny off my 

petrol! Later emigrated to Australia, I met him again at the 2006  Centenary 

Reunion in Glasgow.

 

Talking about swimming in supposedly shark-populated waters, do you  remember 

the elderly Sikh who used to swim round  the KENYA   (complete with turban) 

at the Tanga anchorage.

 

I used to make two or three call at Leixoes each summer in  Vosges  and 

Vendee (ZAIDA and ZIRA) picking up pre-cut timber for  citrus boxes for Israel. The 

ship could certainly roll, as you mention turning  round the breakwater. 

Nearby, Oporto (by ancient tram) was a good city for  a run ashore and Vinh
o Verde!

 

Her in Barassie, we are beginning to see the first effect of the Recession  

with bulkers lying at anchor for up to about 10 days after completing 

discharge,  at Hunterston, before they evidently manage to get a charter or go  

elsewhere to layup. That and the two first Daring class destroyers doing  builders 

trials in the Firth is almost the sum total  of maritime activity  in the Clyde 

these days 

 

Though it is a bit early, this gives me the chance to wish you and yours, ,  

and all other members of the Group, a Merry Christmas, good health in the  New 

Year, and for those still in practice, Good Sailing  

 

Warm regards

 

Tom



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