[BITList] Sorry for delay
fredmno at aol.com
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Sat Dec 13 11:58:07 GMT 2008
Hi Hugh,
yesterdays and today's, should be back to normal tomorrow.
BR Fred
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Essex/Suffolk lunch
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3a.
Re: Keeping the flag flying!
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Re: Keeping the flag flying!
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Cattiolo at aol.com
4a.
Re: Pat Jackson,
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5a.
Re: Raiders
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6.
River Elbe Ceremony
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7.
Curry and Rice ticket
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Roger Northcote
8a.
New year lunch - Cumbria
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Tony H
amnett
8b.
Re: New year lunch - Cumbria
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John Davison
9a.
Querimba Days 1950
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Peter Beattie
9b.
Re: Querimba Days 1950
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Posted by: "Geoff Parker"
geoff.park at virgin.net
Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:34 am (PST)
Tom,
You asked about Querimba and Sofala, inter alia.
My first ship as 3/O was Garbeta- an uneventful trip from RAD to Dundee,
Boulogne, M'brough, Antwerp, London again, then Port Said, Suez,Jeddah,
Massawa, Aden, Colombo, Madras (I'll never get used to the new name) &
Calcutta. A shifting chitty awaited me, and I joined Querimba for a
counter-clockwise trip round Australia, starting at Vizag, Madras, Tuticorin
& Colombo, then calling at Fremantle, Melbourne, Port Loncoln, Port Pirie,
Adelaide (where we managed to watch part of the MCC v South Australia
match - Peter Beattie, who was a ca
det, will remember), then Sydney,
Brisbane & Singapore. In Melbourne I landed on my feet. A maiden aunt of
mine was a buyer at Harrods, and had an Australian assistant who before I
left London gave me a list of contacts in Melbourne, which I duly used to
great advantage. It turned out that said girl, whose name escapes me, was a
niece of the premier of Victoria, so I had plenty of parties and a hunting
trip (I managed to get just one rabbit!). In Sydney we were also lucky,
because it was home to another cadet, Murray Brookes, whose father had been
Commodore, and had recently been knighted. I remember that three of us went
by taxi to pick Murray up from his home, and made a dreadful faux pas by
addressing his mother as Mrs Brookes. She was now of course Lady Brookes,
and was quite offended. Several times we all went dancing, and I had a brief
flirtation with Murray's sister. Not much here about Querimba, I'm afraid.
Her master was Captain Barnard, but I don't recall any other names. At
Brisbane we loaded goodness knows how many brombies bound for Malaya as
remounts, after a hoard of carpenters had descended on us to build the
stalls. Some horses did not survive the trip and somewhere I have a picture
of a dead horse being hoisted overboard to be dumped in the Timor Sea, no
doubt a tasty snack for the sharks.
Now to Sofala. At Singapore on the return from Australia I had been shifted
to Kilwa, and we did many runs from S'pore20to Chittagong before switching
back to her previous home on the African coast. During my time on the
Mombasa/Durban run I took leave in Durban to sit for my mate's ticket, and
then joined Sofala to chase Kilwa up the coast. I eventually rejoined her in
Mombasa. My time on Sofala was like a holiday after studying and sitting
exams in Durban. I was signed on as supernumerary 3/O, but my only duties
were to relieve the watchkeepers for their meals. Apart from that I just
read a lot and drank beer. I can't decipher the name of the Sofala's master
in my discharge book.
I doubt that the above will help you with your collection, but it has been
fun to recall old times.
Salaams
Geoff Parker
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Posted by: "John Prescott"
wreckage at ninetynorth.com
ozardareiver
Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:58 am (PST)
Photos of the lunchtime gathering at Mount Bures on Nov 28 are now
posted in the photos section at:
http://finance. ph.groups. yahoo.com/ group/BIship/ photos/browse/ 2465
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Re: Keeping the flag flying!
Posted by: "Alistair (Sandy) Yeats"
sandyyeats at hotmail.com
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Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:40 am (PST)
Hello Tom
How are things?
Just catching up with all the news after a somewhat long absence.
I was a cadet on the Socotra in 1963 after being transferred from the
Ozarda in Penang . My career progression up to that point was
Nevasa…. Kenya ….then Ozarda…starting at the top and working my way
down as Commodore Ben Rogers said when I moved from Nevasa to Kenya
in 1962.
Joined the Socotra (Capt Pitcairn then Capt Turk, C/o Maud then
Lester, 2/o Ted Alexander, 3/o Mike Harvey, Cadets Max Baroni & Henry
Tristram ) and we proceeded to Bangkok where we loaded 123 water
buffalo on deck for the knackery in Hong Kong. Part of the cadet's
duties was to keep the beasts well fed and watered en route for which
we received a bonus of five pounds each. The animals were discharged
by rope slings round the middle (looked painful) into the junks that
transported them to the abattoirs.
We then sailed for the Philippines to load for Europe and called at
the unusual ports of San Fernando and Tabaco City before berthing in
Manila during the wild Marcos days.
We also called at Tobruk in Libya and Leixoes in Portugal on the way
back to London. Can't remember20if we loaded any port though. Big
rolling swell as we entered the harbour.
We also spent a fair amount of time applying thistlebond patches to
the accommodation block as we sailed through the Mediterranean in
preparation for the Atlantic seas.
The Morvada visited Gan Atoll in 1971 on her maiden voyage. We
anchored in the lagoon and I remember 3rd Engr George Cook swam
ashore from the anchorage just for the exercise!
Earlier this year I sailed with the RAF harbour pilot ( Capt Mike
Head) who was based there in the sixties. We refuelled the high speed
cats in the Maldives at Male harbour en route to Muscat. I have been
there five times for refuelling in the last two years. It's getting
to be a pleasant habit. Four aluminium ferries and a 56 metre motor
yacht. Wish I could say it was mine!
Whilst at the anchorage our radar upset communications reception at
the presidential palace located on the waterfront so we were ordered
by the coastguard to turn it off. They now have a new president
(democratically elected) !
Hot off the press…. AARU are currently are building a deep water
berth on the south side of Thilafushi Island which will be able to
take 15000 ton ships. Estimated to be completed in mid 2009
The Island has been built up by using a large proportion of the
capital's garbage as landfill and is the industrial centre for the
main island. Cement works, gas tanks etc
not very scenic however the
tourists don't go there. You can have a drink in Male if you travel
via ferry to the airport hotel, good food as well. Fresh Tuna of
course.
salaams to all
Sandy Yeats
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Re: Keeping the flag flying!
Posted by: "Cattiolo at aol.com"
Cattiolo at aol.com
cattiolo
Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:15 am (PST)
Sandy,
I was interested to pick up on your comment re your fellow cadet on
Socotra in1963 as being one Henry Tristram. As an Old=2
0Conway, there
was a fellow term member of this name (58-60) who was a good buddy of
mine, but I lost touch. Actually, as I recall his real name was David
Tristram, but for reasons I cannot recall he adopted the name "Henry".
I was unaware that he had joined BI and have always been somewhat
curious as to what happened to him. At school (assuming it is the same
person), amongst other attributes, he excelled at sports, particularly
athletics. His father was involved in operating the then BP
desalinization plant in Kuwait as I recall.
I doubt that you have any knowledge of him since, but just wondered if you are able to fill in any of the blanks.
Thanks.
Ian
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From: Alistair (Sandy) Yeats <sandyyeats at hotmail. com>
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 8:40 am
Subject: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!
Hello Tom
How are things?
Just catching up with all the news after a somewhat long absence.
I was a cadet on the Socotra in 1963 after being transferred from the
Ozarda in Penang . My career progression up to that point was
Nevasa.... Kenya ....then Ozarda...starting at the top and working my way
down as Commodore Ben Rogers said when I moved from Ne
vasa to Kenya
in 1962.
Joined the Socotra (Capt Pitcairn then Capt Turk, C/o Maud then
Lester, 2/o Ted Alexander, 3/o Mike Harvey, Cadets Max Baroni & Henry
Tristra
m ) and we proceeded to Bangkok where we loaded 123 water
buffalo on deck for the knackery in Hong Kong. Part of the cadet's
duties was to keep the beasts well fed and watered en route for which
we received a bonus of five pounds each. The animals were discharged
by rope slings round the middle (looked painful) into the junks that
transported them to the abattoirs.
We then sailed for the Philippines to load for Europe and called at
the unusual ports of San Fernando and Tabaco City before berthing in
Manila during the wild Marcos days.
We also called at Tobruk in Libya and Leixoes in Portugal on the way
back to London. Can't remember if we loaded any port though. Big
rolling swell as we entered the harbour.
We also spent a fair amount of time applying thistlebond patches to
the accommodation block as we sailed through the Mediterranean in
preparation for the Atlantic seas.
The Morvada visited Gan Atoll in 1971 on her maiden voyage. We
anchored in the lagoon and I remember 3rd Engr George Cook swam
ashore from the anchorage just for the exercise!
Earlier this year I sailed with the RAF harbour pilot ( Capt Mike
Head) who was based there in the sixties. We refuelled the high speed
cats in the Maldives=2
0at Male harbour en route to Muscat. I have been
there five times for refuelling in the last tw
o years. It's getting
to be a pleasant habit. Four aluminium ferries and a 56 metre motor
yacht. Wish I could say it was mine!
Whilst at the anchorage our radar upset communications reception at
the presidential palace located on the waterfront so we were ordered
by the coastguard to turn it off. They now have a new president
(democratically elected) !
Hot off the press.... AARU are currently are building a deep water
berth on the south side of Thilafushi Island which will be able to
take 15000 ton ships. Estimated to be completed in mid 2009
The Island has been built up by using a large proportion of the
capital's garbage as landfill and is the industrial centre for the
main island. Cement works, gas tanks etc...not very scenic however the
tourists don't go there. You can have a drink in Male if you travel
via ferry to the airport hotel, good food as well. Fresh Tuna of
course.
salaams to all
Sandy Yeats
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Re: Pat Jackson,
Posted by: "Derek Ings"
Derek.Ings at talktalk.net
mrpings2000
Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:41 am (PST)
I'm sure that Tom is correct that Pat Jackson's middle name was
"Stonewall". He was awarded the Royal Humane Society's medal for his
bravery in saving the lady passenger's life in Dunkirk - she fell into
the dock between the ship's hull and the dockside.
Derek
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To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:03 AM
Subject: [BIship] Pat Jackson,
Tony (gates)
Thanks for that sad news of Pat's demise. Please pass on my sympathy to his
wife.
I remember him as P.C.S. Jackson, and IMMRC the "S" stood for "Stonewall" He
was a stalwart of the cricket (and I think hockey team) along with Ian
Tomkins, Buzz Bee and Pat
rick Moore., altho I can't remember whether
"stonewalling" was a particular forte of his!
Regards
Tom
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Re: Raiders
Posted by: "Robert Readman"
rjreadman at yahoo.co.uk
rjreadman
Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:00 am (PST)
Hi Richard,
I was one of 'em.
But given what I witnessed behind closed doors in the kitchens of the=0
ACorner Houses it was more a cse of learning what NOT to do !!! I saw
some horrific things.
On my first day I witnessed a kitchen hand filling milk jugs by dipping
them into a large churn and then wiping them off. Each time his
entire hand and halh his arm disappeared beneath the surface of the
milk. Great for his skin though!
Salaams
Bob Readman
--- On Wed, 10/12/08, Richard Wilson <richard at macdonaldwi lson.fsnet. co.uk> wrote:
From: Richard Wilson <richard at macdonaldwi lson.fsnet. co.uk>
Subject: Re: [BIship] Raiders
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, 10 December, 2008, 11:09 AM
When certain Pursers were sent to Joe Lyons for Catering training, I
remember hearing that they were training for their 'Curry and Rice
Endorsement' .
Dick Wilson
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To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:13 PM
Subject: [BIship] Raiders
Ron (Thomas)
Most interesting to read that (Captain) Alan Stevens "obtained" his Master's
ticket while in a POW camp. While I think I have read of POW's sitting for
degrees, perhaps under the auspices and supervision of the Swiss Red Cross, I
had not heard of BOT/MOWT certificates being so obtained. As Alan was
probably in a camp where some of the other POW's were British MN shipmasters, or
holders of Master's certificate perhaps they were delegated to hold the oral
section of the examin
ation. [ One hopes that his "superior certificate allowance
was duly credited and backdated!]" Has anyone more details of this
examination arrangement?
While there was an expression "curry & rice ticket" and indeed I had the
randang version of lst Mate (Singapore), this perhaps was a "bierworst" version!
Tom
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River Elbe Ceremony
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by: "Dave Tuthill"
davidtuthill at tinyworld.co.uk
dehenryt
Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:20 am (PST)
The name of the place on the Elbe for playing the National Anthem is WEDEL.
Whenever a ship passes the station on the river bank at Wedel inbound the
national flag of the ship's home country is raised, then dipped, and the
national anthem is played.
I witnessed this some three years ago on a visit to Hamburg. I believe it is
possible on the 'tourist circuit' to visit the station and have a meal in
the restaurant there. I think the playing of the anthems is all computerised
nowadays.
Dave
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Posted by: "Roger Northcote"
northcote_roger at yahoo.co.uk
northcote_roger
Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:38 am (PST)
Bob,
Your dead right there : the standard of health and hygiene were
horrific in the Lyons Corner Houses. Whilst I was there one day a
joint fell on the Kitchen floor and it was wiped clean with a filthy
dishcloth.John Prescott was on the course with me and he can no
doubt vouch for the state of the Kitchens. Sam and Ella were
definately on the catering "payroll".
The Head Chef was permantently pissed on Cooking Sherry : he kept a
bottle in his Office filing cabinet under "A" for alcohol!!! I once
gave a French student an extra ladle of peas in the Cafeteria. The
self same Chef blew his top and gave me an expletive filled lecture
on portion control.I am surprised that the bread wasn't
buttered/marged army style i.e with a shaving brush!!!! I can't say
the Lyon's course was very beneficial with regard to my B.I.career.
The follow up Chief Stewards course for 12 weeks at the Liverpool=2
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Nautical Catering College was far more useful. I returned a few years
later and got my Chief Cooks ticket but that was with a different
outfit.
Salaams
Roger
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New year lunch - Cumbria
Posted by: "Tony Hamnett"
tonyhamnett at btinternet.com
a512409
Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:43 am (PST)
For the last few years four of us have met for a boys-only new year
lunch in Appleby-in- Westmoreland.
This year we're meeting on 3rd Jan and decided we=2
0should invite anyone
else who is interested.
Location is the Royal Oak (website link below) and we're meeting at
around 12:30pm. Whilst Appleby is not the most convenient of locations
it's a pleasant ride out (in the right weather) and hopefully there are
a few of you who live within striking distance.
It's an informal lunch but please let me know if you intend to join us.
If there's a lot of interest I would like to inform the Royal Oak in
advance.
For info those already committed are Bob Dobie, Alisdair MacIntosh,
Brian Parke and Tony Hamnett.
http://www.royaloak appleby.co. uk/
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Re: New year lunch - Cumbria
Posted by: "John Davison"
davison.g at xtra.co.nz
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Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:24 pm (PST)
Does Stan Harrison attend yr meetings as I think he lives in Carlisle ?
salaams
John Davison
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From: Tony Hamnett
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:43 AM
Subject: [BIship] New year lunch - Cumbria
For the last few years four of us have met for a boys-only new year
lunch in Appleby-in- Westmoreland.
This year we're meeting on 3rd Jan and decided we should invite anyone
else who is interested.
Location is the Royal Oak (website link below) and we're meeting at
around 12:30pm. Whilst Appleby is not the most convenient of locations
it's a pleasant ride out (in the right weather) and hopefully there are
a few of you who live within striking distance.
It's an informal lunch but please let me know if you intend to join us.
If there's a lot of interest I would like to inform the Royal Oak in
advance.
For info those already committed are Bob Dobie, Alisdair MacIntosh,
Brian Parke and Tony Hamnett.
http://www.royaloak appleby.co. uk/
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Querimba Days 1950
Posted by: "Peter Beattie"
beattie at paradise.net.nz
peter_beattie
Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:40 pm (PST)
Moderator may have to do something with these photos. All taken in 1950
012 shews Geoff Parker and Hughie Gavin from the Kilwa up to something in the Malayan jungle.
011 Self, Geoff and Sparls in our pipe moking beer drinking days on Querimba
010 2 shots of the Que
rimba the greyhound of the East, dead horse being
slung overboard and two of the fellows who looked after the horses on
the trip.
I can remember quite clearly all of Geoffs adventures in Melbourne --
takes some sort of trigger to pull but it all comes back.
The mate was C W Allerton a most offensive fellow and the other Cadet
was Dave Humphreys who is now a ship owner in the US --- I have contact
with him still. 2nd mate was an Englishman living in Sydney but his
name has gone.
I was on the Querimba from November 49 to March 51 -- at that stage I was bitten by a jackal and ended up in Colomo hospital
Happy days
Peter Beattie
Wellington NZ
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Re: Querimba Days 1950
Posted by: "John Davison"
davison.g at xtra.co.nz
Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:44 am (PST)
WELL WISH I CAN OPEN TO SEE THE PHOTOS , BUT NO CAN DO .
IF IT IS THE HUGH GAVIN I KNEW DURING HK SAILING DAYS , HE DIED MID 6OS
, HEART ATTACK ON A PAKISTAN SHIP AS C/O , NOT GOOD CIRCUMSTANCES .
JOHN DAVISON
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From: Peter Beattie
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:40 PM
Subject: [BIship] Querimba Days 1950
Moderator may have to do something with these photos. All taken in 1950
012 shews Geoff Parker and Hughie Gavin from the Kilwa up to something in the Malayan jungle.
011 Self, Geoff and Sparls in our pipe moking beer drinking days on Querimba
010 2 shots of the Querimba the greyhound of the East, dead horse being
slung overboard and two of the fellows who looked after the horses on
the trip.
I can remember quite clearly all of Geoffs adventures in Melbourne -- takes some sort of trigger to pull but it all comes back.
The mate was C W Allerton a most offensive fellow and the other Cadet
was Dave Humphreys who is now a ship owner in the US --- I have contact
with him still. 2nd mate was an Englishman living in Sydney but his
name has gone.
I was on t
he Querimba from November 49 to March 51 -- at that stage I was bitten by a jackal and ended up in Colomo hospital
Happy days
Peter Beattie
Wellington NZ
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angry old man
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Posted by: "William Power"
williamjpower at hotmail.com
williamjohnpower
Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:18 am (PST)
Cant make out which ship was ref to, Ron, was it the Empire Light?, if
so the info in the book (re codes) was incorrect.Bill Power.
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Posted by: "Ronald Thomas"
thomas.ronald at wanadoo.fr
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Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:45 am (PST)
Bill I was referring to Nowshera v Pinguin 1940. Ron
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Posted by: "William Power"
williamjpower at hotmail.com
williamjohnpower
Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:29 am (PST)
Starting a 3 month Med cruise in the Brit, first stop Halifax NS,
funchal, Gib, barcelona, Naples (for Sorrento/Amalfi) Vernice.Rhodes,
Corfu,Crete, Alex (for Cairo)Haifa (for Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Nazareth,
and all the other places we used to go to in BI etc. There were 7 of us
(plus i el/o)on a watch and i was on the 12-4, we bought two cases os
Gordons, plus a case of Anchovies in Gib, and every morn after our
showers we had a fair old session and retired to our bunks at peace
with the wo
rld. Bill Power. P/S went into Belfast once on A Cunard Medi
brig. Bill Power.
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Unusual ports
Posted by: "William Power"
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Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:31 am (PST)
Definitely wasnt Hamburg was in there a few times20, could have been Bremerhaven, but from memory was bremen. Bill Power.
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Re: Keeping the flag flying!
Posted by: "Geoff Woodland"
woodlandagency at bigpond.com
geoffwoodland
Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:31 am (PST)
Like you Ian, I am interested in
hearing about Henry Tristram as I played in
the same rugby team with him
at Conway in 1960 to 61 - he left in in 61 and I left in 62.
Last I heard was that he was working in Birmingham (heard on the Conway chat
group)
- this was about 3 or 4 years ago but don't know if this was fact - all
hearsay.
Henry could run like the wind as a three quarter in the 1st XV
salaams
Geoff
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Sandy,
I was interested to pick up on your comment re your fellow cadet on Socotra
in1963 as being one Henry Tristram. As an Old Conway, there was a fellow
term member of this name (58-60) who was a good buddy of mine, but I lost
touch. Actually, as I recall his real name was David Tristram, but for
reasons I cannot recall he adopted the name "Henry". I was unaware that he
had joined BI and have always been somewhat curious as to what happened to
him. At school (assuming it is the same person), amongst other attributes,
he excelled at sports, particularly athletics. His father was involved in
operating the then BP desalinization plant in Kuwait as I recall.
I doubt that you have any knowledge of him since, but just wondered if you
are able to fill in any of the blanks.
Thanks.
Ian
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Re: Keeping the flag flying!
Posted by: "Jim Devine"
brigadoon at telkomsa.net
libertonst
Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:50 am (PST)
Hello Sandy,
Just a quickie to let you know that Annie is leaving this evening for
London to visit with he
r family. This is the first time they will all
be in the same place together for the first time in many years. I am
taking the liberty of sending greetings from you to Gillian and the
family, hope you do not mind the presumption!
Have a wonderful Christmas and New Year, and here I extend my greetings to all our group members!
Kindest regards,
Jim D.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alistair (Sandy) Yeats
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:40 PM
Subject: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!
Hello Tom
How are things?
Just catching up with all the news after a somewhat long absence.
I was a cadet on the Socotra in 1963 after being transferred from the
Ozarda in Penang . My career progression up to that point was
Nevasa.. Kenya ..then Ozarda.starting at the top and working my way
down as Commodore Ben Rogers said when I moved from Nevasa to Kenya
in 1962.
Joined the Socotra (Capt Pitcairn then Capt Turk, C/o Maud then
Lester, 2/o Ted Alexander, 3/o Mike Harvey, Cadets Max Baroni & Henry
Tristram ) and we proceeded to Bangkok where we loaded 123 water
buffalo on deck for the knackery in Hong Kong. Part of the cadet's
duties was to keep the beasts well fed and watered en route for which
we received a bonus of five pounds each. The animals were discharged
by rope slings round the middle (loo
ked painful) into the junks that
transported them to the abattoirs.
We then sailed for the Philippines to load for Europe and called at
the unusual ports of San Fernando and Tabaco City before berthing in
Manila during the wild Marcos days.
We also called at Tobruk in Libya and Leixoes in Portugal on the way
back to London. Can't remember if we loaded any port though. Big
rolling swell as we entered the harbour.
We also spent a fair amount of time applying thistlebond patches to
the accommodation block as we sailed through the Mediterranean in
preparation for the Atlantic seas.
The Morvada visited Gan Atoll in 1971 on her maiden voyage. We
anchored in the lagoon and I remember 3rd Engr George Cook swam
ashore from the anchorage just for the exercise!
Earlier this year I sailed with the RAF harbour pilot ( Capt Mike
Head) who was based there in the sixties. We refuelled the high speed
cats in the Maldives at Male harbour en route to Muscat. I have been
there five times for refuelling in the last two years. It's getting
to be a pleasant habit. Four aluminium ferries and a 56 metre motor
yacht. Wish I could say it was mine!
Whilst at the anchorage our radar upset communications reception at
the presidential palace located on the waterfront so we were ordered
by the coastguard to turn it off. They now=2
0have a new president
(democratically elected) !
Hot off the press.. AARU are currently are building a deep water
berth on the south side of Thilafushi Island which will be able to
take 15000 ton ships. Estimated to be completed in mid 2009
The Island has been built up by using a large proportion of the
capital's garbage as landfill and is the industrial centre for the
main island. Cement works, gas tanks etc.not very scenic however the
tourists don't go there. You can have a drink in Male if you travel
via ferry to the airport hotel, good food as well. Fresh Tuna of
course.
salaams to all
Sandy Yeats
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Re: Keeping the flag flying!
Posted by: "Cattiolo at aol.com"
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cattiolo
Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:28 am (PST)
Geoff,
Thanks for the response.? If I may digress from things BI (with the
moderator's blessing - although it is BI related), Henry Tristram was
in the Hold Division, as was I and we both joined as New Chums in
1958.? As you mention, he was a heck of a rugby player and won all
manner of awards, but as I recall, he had very little respect for
authority in general!? While I am a member of the Club - I'm not a
group member - and I've seen no mention of his name.? Maybe that's a
course I'll pursue (particularly as I still have family in the
Birmingham area).? By the way, I do have some recollection of your
name, so perhaps our paths did cross?
As an aside, wasn't the Socotra a one time P&O vessel?
Regards,
Ian
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From: Geoff Woodland <woodlandagency@ bigpond.com>
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 5:31 am
Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!
Like you Ian,
I am interested in hearing about Henry Tristram as I played in
the same rugby team with him
at Conway in 1960 to 61 - he left in in 61 and I left in 62.
Last I heard was that he was working in Birmingham (heard on the Conway chat
group)
- this was about 3 or 4 years ago but don't know if this was fact - all
hearsay.
Henry could run like the wind as a three quarter in the 1st XV
salaams
Geoff
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Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!
Sandy,
I was interested to pick up on your comment re your fellow cadet on Socotra
in1963 as being one Henry Tristram. As an Old Conway, there was a fellow
term member of this name (58-60) who was a good buddy of mine, but I lost
touch. Actually, as I recall his real name was David Tristram, but for
reasons I cannot recall he adopted the name "Henry". I was unaware that he
had joined BI and have always been somewhat curious as to what happened to
him. At school (assuming it is the same person), amongst other attributes,
he excelled at sports, particularly athletics. His father was involved in
operating the then BP desalinization plant in Kuwait as I recall.
I doubt that you have any knowledge of him since, but just=2
0wondered if you
are able to fill in any of the blanks.
Thanks.
Ian
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angry old man
Posted by: "William Power"
williamjpower at hotmail.com
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i Dec 12, 2008 2:35 am (PST)
Her indoors said to me the other day, (using my sunday name )which
annoys me, you will have to watch it William, how,s that? its in the
paper that they have just given an elderly man an asbo for swearing at
the telly in a loud voice, no answer to that!. Bill Power
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Re: angry old man
Posted by: "Peter Fielding"
thirdeng at googlemail.com
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Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:04 am (PST)
--- In BIship at yahoogroups. com, William Power <williamjpower@ ...> wrote:
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> Her indoors said to me the other day, (using my sunday name )which
annoys me, you will have to watch it William, how,s that? its in the
paper that they have just given an elderly man an asbo for swearing at
the telly in a loud voice, no answer to that!. Bill Power
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I can relate to that, Bill. Our t.v. comes in for more than it's fair
share of b****kings. Not the fault of the telly, it's the idiots who
appear on it.
Salaams,
Peter.
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6a.
Jo Lyons
Posted by: "J and P Thompson"
casa3b at gmail.com
benimeli_pippins
Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:56 am (PST)
Hola Roger & Bob
I can also remember some horrific scenes in the kitchens - on about day
one at the Coventry Street Corner House I was told to mix up the Cole
Slaw for the day - shown a vat and the ingredients and on enquiring
'how is to be mixed' was told to 'roll up my sleeves, get your hands in
there and get on with it' - I duly obliged with Cole Slaw up to my
elbows!
The best part of the training course was meeting the meat buyer in
Smithfield market at 4.30 a.m. or thereabouts, going round with him and
then disappearing into the pub for a couple of pints and a bacon sarnie
at 6.30 a.m. - Billingsgate wasn't nearly so accommodating nor Covent
Garden, I think.
That was July - Sept. 1964 - when were you two there?
Hasta luego
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Re: Jo Lyons
Posted by: "Jim Devine"
brigadoon at telkomsa.net
libertonst
Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:30 am (PST)
Greetings All,
Best story I heard was Archie Curray's failing the final exam for
Catering Purser - when asked to sketch and describe a rice pudding he
forgot to include the raisins!
Jim D.
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Hola Roger & Bob
I can also remember some horrific scenes in the kitchens - on about day
one at the Coventry Street Corner House I was told to mix up the Cole
Slaw for the day - shown a vat and the ingredients and on enquiring
'how is to be mixed' was told to 'roll up my sleeves, get your hands in
there and get on with it' - I duly obliged with Cole Slaw up to my
elbows!
The best part of the training course was meeting the meat buyer in
Smithfield market at 4.30 a.m. or thereabouts, going round with him and
then disappearing into the pub for a couple of pints and a bacon sarnie
at 6.30 a.m. - Billingsgate wasn't nearly so accommodating nor Covent
Garden, I think.
That was July - Sept. 1964 - when were you two there?
Hasta luego
Peter Thompson
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Re: Querimba Days 1950
Posted by: "Jim Devine"
brigadoon at telkomsa.net
libertonst
Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:21 am (PST)
John,
Click on heading New Photos in column to right of your message and this
will take you to Yahoo Groups, i.e. BIship. Enter your ID and Password
and you are in! Good luck,
Jim D.
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Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [BIship] Querimba Days 1950
WELL WISH I CAN OPEN TO SEE THE PHOTOS , BUT NO CAN DO .
IF IT IS THE HUGH GAVIN I KNEW DURING HK SAILING DAYS , HE DIED MID 6OS
, HEART ATTACK ON A PAKISTAN SHIP AS C/O , NOT GOOD CIRCUMSTANCES .
JOHN DAVISON
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From: Peter Beattie
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 5:
40 PM
Subject: [BIship] Querimba Days 1950
Moderator may have to do something with these photos. All taken in 1950
012 shews Geoff Parker and Hughie Gavin from the Kilwa up to something in the Malayan jungle.
011 Self, Geoff and Sparls in our pipe moking beer drinking days on Querimba
010 2 shots of the Querimba the greyhound of the East, dead horse being
slung overboard and two of the fellows who looked after the horses on
the trip.
I can remember quite clearly all of Geoffs adventures in Melbourne -- takes some sort of trigger to pull but it all comes back.
The mate was C W Allerton a most offensive fellow and the other Cadet
was Dave Humphreys who is now a ship owner in the US --- I have contact
with him still. 2nd mate was an Englishman living in Sydney but his
name has gone.
I was on the Querimba from November 49 to March 51 -- at that stage I was bitten by a jackal and ended up in Colomo hospital
Happy days
Peter Beattie
Wellington NZ
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Re: Curry and Rice ticket
Posted by: "Robert Readman"
rjreadman at yahoo.co.uk
rjreadman
Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:14 am (PST)
Hi Roger!
The more I think about my time with Lyons - the more I recall.
Remember how salads would be pre-plated on display in the self-service restaurants?
One day I watched as one lady removed salads from the display because
they had been
under the lights for too long - greens had wilted,
beetroot and carrot had dried up and the ice-cream sized scoops of
potato salad had developed a rather unappetising crust.
Thrown away? No such thing. The lettuce was dipped in iced water to
revive it. Dried beetroot was dipped in vinegar and to my utter digust
the ball of potato salad was picked up with bare hands, deftly
manipulated so that the dried up crust was on the inside, Replated,
it was soon back on display.
On my last day at the Coventry Street(?) Corner House I was walking
with the manager through one of the restaurants - he puffing away on a
cigarette. Looking for somewhere to ditch the butt, he spotted a
dirty coffe/tea cup on a table and dropped the fag end in to it -
completely oblivious to (or deliberately ignoring) the fact that an
elderly lady was sitting
on the other side of the table eating her meal!!!
The other thing that astonished me was the way meat was plated up ready
for service during lunch - stacked in piles - meat/plate/meat/ plate
and so on with nothing separating the meat from the plate on top of
it. Made for very messy service as often when the server picked up a
plate - the meat from the plate underneath was stuck to the bottom of
it!
I suspect those of us lucky enough to have undergone the Lyons Experience have enough anecdotes between us to write a book.
God knows what=2
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subjected to the kind of galley inspections carried out by the Captain
and C/O aboard ship.
Keep 'em coming!
Salaams
Bob
--- On Thu, 11/12/08, Roger Northcote <northcote_roger@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
From: Roger Northcote <northcote_roger@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: [BIship] Curry and Rice ticket
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, 11 December, 2008, 5:38 PM
Bob,
Your dead right there : the standard of health and hygiene were
horrific in the Lyons Corner Houses. Whilst I was there one day a
joint fell on the Kitchen floor and it was wiped clean with a filthy
dishcloth.John Prescott was on the course with me and he can no
doubt vouch for the state of the Kitchens. Sam and Ella were
definately on the catering "payroll".
The Head Chef was permantently pissed on Cooking Sherry : he kept a
bottle in his Office filing cabinet under "A" for alcohol!!! I once
gave a French student an extra ladle of peas in the Cafeteria. The
self same Chef blew his top and gave me an expletive filled lecture
on portion control.I am surprised that the bread wasn't
buttered/marged army style i.e with a shaving brush!!!! I can't say
the Lyon's course was very beneficial with regard to my B.I.career.
The follow up Chief Stewards course for 12 weeks at the Liverpool
Nautical Catering College was far more useful. I returned a few years
l
ater and got my Chief Cooks ticket but that was with a different
outfit.
Salaams
Roger
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Re: Curry and Rice ticket
Posted by: "Robert Readman"
rjreadman at yahoo.co.uk
rjreadman
Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:17 am (PST)
--- On Thu, 11/12/08, Roger Northcote <northcote_roger@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
From: Roger Northcote <northcote_roger@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: [BIship] Curry and Rice ticket
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Date: Thur
sday, 11 December, 2008, 5:38 PM
Bob,
Your dead right there : the standard of health and hygiene were
horrific in the Lyons Corner Houses. Whilst I was there one day a
joint fell on the Kitchen floor and it was wiped clean with a filthy
dishcloth.John Prescott was on the course with me and he can no
doubt vouch for the state of the Kitchens. Sam and Ella were
definately on the catering "payroll".
The Head Chef was permantently pissed on Cooking Sherry : he kept a
bottle in his Office filing cabinet under "A" for alcohol!!! I once
gave a French student an extra ladle of peas in the Cafeteria. The
self same Chef blew his top and gave me an expletive filled lecture
on portion control.I am surprised that the bread wasn't
buttered/marged army style i.e with a shaving brush!!!! I can't say
the Lyon's course was very beneficial with regard to my B.I.career.
The follow up Chief Stewards course for 12 weeks at the Liverpool
Nautical Catering College was far more useful. I returned a few years
later and got my Chief Cooks ticket but that was with a different
outfit.
Salaams
Roger
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Re: New year lunch - Cumbria
Posted by: "Tony Hamnett"
tonyhamnett at btinternet.com
a512409
Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:20 am (PST)
--- In BIship at yahoogroups. com, "John Davison" <davison.g at . ..> wrote:
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> Does Stan Harrison attend yr meetings as I think he lives in
Carlisle ?
>
> salaams
>
> John Davison
Not up to now John and can't find his contact details in the members
list.
Do you have his e-mail address?
Tony
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Re: New year lunch - Cumbria
Posted by: "John Davison"
davison.g at xtra.co.nz
Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:41 pm (PST)
Thanks Tony ,
Sorry I do not know of Stan's address etc , Stan was 2/e/0 on Chakdara and I think repeat think made it to c/e/o .
I last saw Stan in HK mid 70s and he was a superintendent for a ship
management company , perhaps it was Clyde or Scottish Ship management ,
but definitely from some where in the NW and he came from Carlisle ,
and or that area !!
Salaams
John
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Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 6:19 AM
Subject: [BIship] Re: New year lunch - Cumbria
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> Does Stan Harrison attend yr meetings as I think he lives in
Carlisle ?
>
> salaams
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> John Davison
Not up to now John and can't find his contact details in the members
list.
Do you have his e-mail address?
Tony
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Re: Henry Tristram
Posted by: "Michael Jobson"
mrjobson at yahoo.com
mrjobson
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Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:47 pm (PST)
There seems to be some interest in David (Henry) Tristram. I have
replied to a particular posting on this group, but if it adds anything
Henry was a deck cadet with me in Queda in March-August 1963. We were
on a Gulf run and his father was certainly in Mina-al-Ahmedi at that
time. I was priviliged to go ashore with Henry and to meet his father
(it was not usual to get ashore in Mina).
I do not recollect the Hold Division, was that Conway(?), and doubt
that Henry was with BI in 1958 as I was senior to him in 1963.
Henry Tristram must have taken sports very seriously - I understand he
was also a javelin throwing champion at Conway - as he spent some time
with chest-expanders and was very proud of his physique! There was not
much opportunity for sports on the tankers. Only bridge (the card game)
which we played a lot off watch.
I also lost touch with him not long after leaving Queda.
MJ
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From: Cattiolo at aol. com <Cattiolo at aol. com>
Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 6:28 PM
Geoff,
Thanks for the response.? If I may digress from things BI (with the
moderator's blessing - although it is BI related), Henry Tristram was
in the Hold Division, as was I and we both joined as New20Chums in
1958.? As you mention, he was a heck of a rugby player and won all
manner of awards, but as I recall, he had very little respect for
authority in general!? While I am a member of the Club - I'm not a
group member - and I've seen no mention of his name.? Maybe that's a
course I'll pursue (particularly as I still have family in the
Birmingham area).? By the way, I do have some recollection of your
name, so perhaps our paths did cross?
As an aside, wasn't the Socotra a one time P&O vessel?
Regards,
Ian
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From: Geoff Woodland <woodlandagency@ bigpond.com>
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 5:31 am
Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!
Like you Ian, I am interested in hearing about Henry Tristram as I played in
the same rugby team with him
at Conway in 1960 to 61 - he left in in 61 and I left in 62.
Last I heard was that he was working in Birmingham (heard on the Conway chat
group)
- this was about 3 or 4 years ago but don't know if this was fact - all
hearsay.
Henry could run like the wind as a three quarter in the 1st XV
salaams
Geoff
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Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!
Sandy,
I was interested to pick up on
your comment re your fellow cadet on Socotra
in1963 as being one Henry Tristram. As an Old Conway, there was a fellow
term member of this name (58-60) who was a good buddy of mine, but I lost
touch. Actually, as I recall his real name was David Tristram, but for
reasons I cannot recall he adopted the name "Henry". I was unaware that he
had joined BI and have always been somewhat curious as to what happened to
him. At school (assuming it is the same person), amongst other attributes,
he excelled at sports, particularly athletics. His father was involved in
operating the then BP desalinization plant in Kuwait as I recall.
I doubt that you have any knowledge of him since, but just wondered if you
are able to fill in any of the blanks.
Thanks.
Ian
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Re: Henry Tristram
Posted by: "Geoff Woodland"
woodlandagency at bigpond.com
geoffwoodland
Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:12 pm (PST)
Michael & Ian,
Henry has been found - via the Conway site, he now lives in Florida at
Pampino Beach.
His Conway years were 59 - 61
>From memory the only place one could visit ashore in Mina was the seaman's
corrugated hut, where the beer
was cheap, and fags & spirits were cheaper than on board the Ellenga. The
seaman's hut was inside the compound
which was surround by a barbed wire fence & guards,
salaams
Geoff
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From: "Michael Jobson" <mrjobson at yahoo. com>
To: <BIship at yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Henry Tristram
T
here seems to be some interest in David (Henry) Tristram. I have replied to
a particular posting on this group, but if it adds anything Henry was a deck
cadet with me in Queda in March-August 1963. We were on a Gulf run and his
father was certainly in Mina-al-Ahmedi at that time. I was priviliged to go
ashore with Henry and to meet his father (it was not usual to get ashore in
Mina).
I do not recollect the Hold Division, was that Conway(?), and doubt that
Henry was with BI in 1958 as I was senior to him in 1963.
Henry Tristram must have taken sports very seriously - I understand he was
also a javelin throwing champion at Conway - as he spent some time with
chest-expanders and was very proud of his physique! There was not much
opportunity for sports on the tankers. Only bridge (the card game) which we
played a lot off watch.
I also lost touch with him not long after leaving Queda.
MJ
--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Cattiolo at aol. com <Cattiolo at aol. com> wrote:
From: Cattiolo at aol. com <Cattiolo at aol. com>
Subject: Re: [BIship] Re: Keeping the flag flying!
To: BIship at yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 6:28 PM
Geoff,
Thanks for the response.? If I may digress from things BI (with the
moderator's blessing - although it is BI related), Henry Tristram was in the
Hold Division, as was I and we both joined as New Chums in 1958.? As you
mention, he was a heck of a rugby player
and won all manner of awards, but
as I recall, he had very little respect for authority in general!? While I
am a member of the Club - I'm not a group member - and I've seen no mention
of his name.? Maybe that's a course I'll pursue (particularly as I still
have family in the Birmingham area).? By the way, I do have some
recollection of your name, so perhaps our paths did cross?
As an aside, wasn't the Socotra a one time P&O vessel?
Regards,
Ian
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Posted by: "Peter Beattie"
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bonnyladnz
Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:23 pm (PST)
My original email appeared without pictures.
Checked my Sent Box -- and they are there alright.
Where else can they be ? ?
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John Major - photos Kampala 1970
Posted by: "derek894652"
derekbarks at bti
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derek894652
Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:30 pm (PST)
John , some interesting photos (to me)
I didn't know I had sailed with you , but there I am ,on 3 of your
photos .some very familiar faces not seen for a very long time - john
grocott , tony bennett , ken milne , terry matthews ,grace mclean just
a few ,I am still looking !
derek barks
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DARA SURVIVORS
Posted by: "John Davison"
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Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:23 pm (PST)
Since Pat Jackson has just died , I have been asked by a BI friend not
on this web , to find out if any one knows of any BI survivors still
living , on the deck side names of persons not with us in addition to
Jackson are Charles Alexander 2/0 , 3/0 Hird or Herd , cadet Grimshaw ,
" think " the Master , Elson .
Cadet Ian Tew survives , but I have no news of the C/O Jordan , or any
knowledge regarding the Engineers , R/Os and Pursers ? , how ever I did
meet a surviving assistant purser some years ago in Bombay , name was
Da Silva , I think ?
Could any one assist please .
John Davison
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Lyonaisse days
Posted by: "Roger Northcote"
northcote_roger at yahoo.co.uk
northcote_roger
Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:29 pm (PST)
Pete,
I did my "Curry and Rice " Ticket around 1970-71. The format was much
the same : Billingsgate interesting. Saw a giganitic Turbot there for
sale : a Plaice on steriods!!!! !. Smithfield was great and I remember
the early morning pints in the Pub. We also visited a firm that did the
steaks for Berni Inns : 8 oz, 10oz, 12 oz, 16 oz : all compressed meat
from different steers moulded into a strict weighed format/shape by a
machine. The sign of things to come. Was assigned to the Chelsea flower
show as well : Morning suits were rig of the day. Also the Joe Lyons
Experimental Kitchen : a kind of Frakensteins Catering Laboratory.Micro
waves were coming in and we saw some cooking by same. Wasn't there a
ship in the 70's which took on stores as microwavable meals for crew
catering as an experiment. Think it was on a Home trade run.
Good days but health and hygiene was a nightmare : but perhaps then we
were stronger. You have to eat a "peck" of
dirt in your life as the
saying goes and in this weird age with peanut allergies etc we have
become a weaker people. Brinmg on the tripe and Onions!!!!
Salaams
Roger
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Keeping the flag flying
Posted by: "TEKelso at aol.com"
TEKelso at aol.com
tomekelso
Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:46 pm (PST)
Hi there! Sandy,
Good to hear from you and that you are still on the "go" buzzing across the
Indian Ocean. I found your original account o
f the delivery voyage logistics
of these fast catamaran craft to points West, extremely interesting. That,
and some of the other onward progressions of our membership makes me think
that there was indeed something special about our training in the BI! Maybe our
introduction to Thistlebond at an early age, nurtured our ability to
improvise!
In between contracts, are you still sailing about the North Queensland coast?
Intrigued about your mention of 3/EO George Cook swimming ashore at Gan from
MORVADA. The sharks must have been "off their food" that day! I sailed with
another George Cook for a year or two in KENYA. He was the Chief Lecky and
lived in Paisley. On leaving BI he managed the filling station at Mearns
Cross, Newton Mearns for a few years..though he never gave me a penny off my
petrol! Later emigrated to Australia, I met him again at the 2006 Centenary
Reunion in Glasgow.
Talking about swimming in supposedly shark-populated waters, do you remember
the elderly Sikh who used to swim round the KENYA (complete with turban)
at the Tanga anchorage.
I used to make two or three call at Leixoes each summer in Vosges and
Vendee (ZAIDA and ZIRA) picking up pre-cut timber for citrus boxes for Israel. The
ship could certainly roll, as you mention turning round the breakwater.
Nearby, Oporto (by ancient tram) was a good city for a run ashore and Vinh
o Verde!
Her in Barassie, we are beginning to see the first effect of the Recession
with bulkers lying at anchor for up to about 10 days after completing
discharge, at Hunterston, before they evidently manage to get a charter or go
elsewhere to layup. That and the two first Daring class destroyers doing builders
trials in the Firth is almost the sum total of maritime activity in the Clyde
these days
Though it is a bit early, this gives me the chance to wish you and yours, ,
and all other members of the Group, a Merry Christmas, good health in the New
Year, and for those still in practice, Good Sailing
Warm regards
Tom
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