[BITList] [bapanews] commonwealth article https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/prime-minister-should-apologise-to-ex-colonies-says-emily-thornberry-b7xzm3kp8

[John Feltham]

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> On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:24, clive walford clida2000 at yahoo.com [bapaemail] <bapaemail at yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/prime-minister-should-apologise-to-ex-colonies-says-emily-thornberry-b7xzm3kp8
> “Theresa May should apologise to ex‑colonies, says Labour’s Emily Thornberry”
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> I have submitted a comment to the above article, as set out below. It is “pending” but I doubt that it will get included as I do not think my old account with the times is active. (quite honestly I cant afford to keep paying out for newspaper accounts).
> I wont copy the article here but hopefully you will be able to read it via the link.
> One comment by “Rystone” refers to frozen pensions so I have used that to reply. That is copied here.
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> Rylstone 4 hours ago
> “A much better thing to do would be to sort out the awful way Commonwealth citizens who have lived here for decades are being treated by the Home Office, trying to remove them all the time.
> And to pay British Citizens living in Commonwealth countries their full pension, like we do those living in EU countries.
> There are a lot of things we do TODAY that are not fair to the Commonwealth and could be changed, before we worry about apologising to for things people we did not elect did to people we don't know”.
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> If you have an account perhaps you would also like to make a comment, ( or reply to a comment).
> Clive (Indonesia)
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> Rylstone’s comment: commonwealth citizens living in the UK are more easily encapsulated  in the Home Office/DWP  “net to gather more income or exclude” than many others migrants to the UK.
> Some British Citizens living in commonwealth countries  do get their full UK State Pinion. Out of the 53 States, pensions are increased in about half a dozen of them. Such is the government’s claim for “equality, fairness and justice for all”.  Note: ALL not just UK resident citizens, or just commonwealth living UK citizens, but world-wide living citizens.
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> 12 million UK pensioners all paid the same mandatory NIS contributions.
> 10.8 million living in the UK get their full state pension, depending only on years contributed to the NIS fund,
> 660,000 living overseas, (including the EU), get their full state pension, depending only on years contributed to the NIS fund.
> 540,000 living overseas in 120 countries, including nearly all commonwealth countries do NOT get their full state pension, depending only on years contributed to the NIS fund.
> FAIRNESS?????    EQUALITY?????     JUSTICE?????
> Some still on the pension they first received 30 years ago!
> The Commonwealth Charter states it “is against any form of discrimination”.
> HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN STATED THAT IN HER SPEECH.
> However the government insult Her Majesty by ignoring that decree. They refuse to stop discriminating against those 540,000 pensioners.
> Lord Freud on the 31st of January 2014, (the then Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Department for Work and Pensions) (Welfare Reform), stated in an official letter from the DWP;  ;”REGARDING THE COMMONWEALTH CHARTER, THIS IS AN ASPIRATIONAL DOCUMENT  THAT PROVIDES A BROAD STATEMENT OF COMMON VALUES:
> He uses the  definition of “aspirational”:  Expressing a hope or intention but not creating a legally binding obligation, to say in my words,  in effect “we expect others to be aspirational but as it is not a legal document we will ignore it and continue discriminating against those 540,000 “frozen” pensioners!
> So the head of the commonwealth, (her Majesty The Queen) says “no discrimination”, but her loyal (?) government says “yes to discrimination”. (There are those that have suggested the UK should be expelled from the commonwealth until they follow the other states and stop discriminating against those 540,000 loyal subjects.
> The government says we cant afford £590 million to uprate those frozen pensions. they can afford £13 billion for Overseas Aid. They have allocated nearly £60 billion to HS2 which is basically falling to pieces and the government will have to bear the cost. WAIT! ITS NOT THE GOVERNMENT PAYING! Its us the tax payers!” (The NIS fund will have a balance of £2.2 billion above the legal balance required by the end of 2018/9.     Its workers now, and pensioners when working that pay not the taxpayers. The income from contributions exceed the expenditure.
> The government said “there is no Reciprocal Agreement,(RA),  with those frozen countries. They now admit RAs are not required.
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