[BITList] Frozen Pensions

[John Feltham]

Just received this one.


My husband just recently received a small private pension from when he worked in the UK only to have £1500 taken from it by the British taxation. Where is the logic in that.

If there are other countries where the pensions aren't frozen how did these countries get this privilege and not Australia?

Maybe we need to follow in their steps to get the Uk to act in the benefit of pensioners here

With best regards

Janice 

Sent from my iPad

On 2 Oct 2014, at 6:35 am, "'John Corner' astley22 at bigpond.net.au <mailto:astley22 at bigpond.net.au> [bapaemail]" <bapaemail at yahoogroups.com <mailto:bapaemail at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

>  Here is a letter I sent to UKIP... Still waiting to hear & have chased it.
>  
> Anyone may use it or extracts if they feel it will help.
>  
> Best,
>  
> John.
>  
> Dear Mr Finch,
>  
> No doubt you and Nigel Farange are aware of the frozen pension matter...?
>  
> It is quite wrong, indeed a divisive matter which surely is discriminatory.
>  
> As part of all replies from UK MPs the statement that index linking the pensions cannot be afforded is common in spite of the fact that the fund created expressly for that has plenty of money. Also the government pays huge sums to foreign aid yet fail the British pensioner?  This aid money is often lost to the void of the foreign rich and never reaches those for whom it is intended. It’s as if the British pensioner is second class to the foreigner!
>  
> To index all UK State pensions will only cost about $600 million per annum and we are not asking for recovery of any retrospective payments for money already lost. Moreover in 2013 the British government sent £11.4 billion overseas for foreign aid, so why cannot the UK Government transfer some of this foreign aid to pay for indexing of all UK state pensions?
>  
> From past information Britain, one of the major economic countries, appears to be way ahead of the G8 field. The Telegraph of May 2012 tells of Britain sending 0.56% of its GDP as foreign aid. At this time, just two years ago, the G8 average was 0.28%, half of what Britain was contributing, while since then the British contribution has increased by about 20% to 0.72% of GDP: that is an increase of about £2.4 billion per year while the UK government still claims it cannot afford to index our pensions for only £0.6 billion!
>  
> The Government immigration policy is wildly out of control, and has been for years, allowing thousands, indeed hundreds of thousands of economic migrants to feed on Britain’s generosity...whilst true Brits, who have worked a lifetime in Britain and paid NI, are penalised indeed considered worthless.
>  
> I will not vote for any British party which fails to address and correct the pension issue. Indeed I am telling my friends and family in the UK so they may vote accordingly.
>  
> To index our pensions would only cost approximately 0.7% [£580 Million] of the UK’s pension budget. The government could easily reduce its £11.4 billion contribution to foreign overseas aid, by £580 million, bringing it back to £10.82 billion, 0.68% of GDP, almost the targeted 0.7% of GDP, and use the £580 million to index the expats’ pensioners’ pensions. Such a change would improve the UK’s reputation for fairness, equality and non-discrimination, a reputation which here in the Commonwealth is sullied by the Government’s continued intransigence over this frozen pension issue.
>  
> The BBC has recently reported that David Cameron is now making the positive impact of Conservative policies on families a key feature in future policy development. He maintains his Conservative Government "helps people who come together stay together". In his speech he said: "I want every government department to be held to account for the impact of their policies on the family."
>  
> Many pensioners who went overseas went to be with family, as did I. Where is the holding to account on the frozen pension matter? Pensioners of considerable age are being forced to return to the UK, leave their families, just to be able to live. That is terrible.
>  
> An appeal was thrown out by the European Court of Human Rights but the judges were all foreigners, poorly briefed, and, as has subsequently been revealed, had no knowledge of the British system of paying for a pension!
>  
> There is a strong campaign in Canada, South Africa and Australia to correct this anomaly and we are contacting our UK MPS, friends and family in the UK who, by the way know little or nothing of this matter, and telling them.
>  
> We are reluctant to support any party which does not immediately recognise this appalling policy and agrees to do something to resolve this issue.
>  
> What is UKiP’s position on this matter?
>  
> There is an increasing number of voters looking for a party to support...
>  
> John K Corner,
> Melbourne,
> Australia.
>  


> Derek Spraggon
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> From: spraggon47 at hotmail.com <mailto:spraggon47 at hotmail.com>
> To: crispinbluntmp at parliament.uk <mailto:crispinbluntmp at parliament.uk>
> CC: mail at ukip.org <mailto:mail at ukip.org>; bapaemail at yahoogroups.com <mailto:bapaemail at yahoogroups.com>; public.enquiries at hm-treasury.gov.uk <mailto:public.enquiries at hm-treasury.gov.uk>
> Subject: Pensions
> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 05:55:35 +0000
> 
> Dear Sir,
>  
> It appears that all MPs are giving a stock party answer when asked why you have been asked why you are not willing to give All Pensioners Abroad the same rights they were told they would have when excepting the contract between themselves and the Government of the day when bringing in a National Insurance scheme.
>  
> No one takes into account that if we all came back to the UK, not only would you have to raise our pensions to present day rates but we would then cost the country the cost of the following:
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> 
> Free bus passes
> 
> Free TV licence
> 
> Age addition to pension
> 
> Pension credit
> 
> NHS
> 
> Winter Fuel Allowance
> 
> Cold Weather Payments
> 
> Free Prescriptions.
> 
> Free Eye Tests.
> 
> Reduced Dental Charges
> 
> Christmas Bonus
> 
> Free Driver's Licence renewal
> 
> Housing Benefit
> 
> Council Tax Benefit
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> Yet all that is being asked for is our RIGHT to the pension we EARNED.
>  
> It appears that, when asked, the Prime Minister said he was sympathetic to this right yet he actions do nothing about it.
>  
> Now that more and more senior citizens are realising that they can still vote in UK elections and are now starting to make there compatriots in the UK (who may be thinking of becoming expats, thereby costing the country even less money) aware of this I suggest you bring this topic to the fore.
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> Our choice, if no action is taken, will be to look to the UKIP, who are in agreement with our moral right to this.
>  
> I will be on the electoral roll for your next election and will be swayed greatly by the response I get to this email.
>  
> Kind regards
>  
> Derek Spraggon
> Australian expat, ex Reigate resident, ex Royal Navy
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> 
> Derek Spraggon
> 


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