John, Some unfortunate skiers apart, it was all down to the wrong footwear/tyres/speed. But there would be no fun in watching sensibly clad people not falling on their bums. Hugh. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com/pipermail/bitlist/attachments/20141204/ded36537/attachment.html>