[BITList] Islamification of Western societies threatens everyone'sfreedoms - FALSE ALARM

FS franka at iinet.net.au
Tue Feb 26 14:18:45 GMT 2013


Colin
When I see the  Islamic cultures? start to show the same lack of 
xenophobic  nonsense I might be more inclined to trust their motives
frank


On 2/26/2013 10:07 PM, x50type at cox.net wrote:
>
> There is plenty of stats and evidence based info around to indicate 
> that this is the usual racist and alarmist rhetoric -- commentators 
> seem more focused on ringing false alarm bells than on presenting facts.
>
> it’s as the failed mitt romney team said – we are not letting facts 
> get in our way.....................!
>
> and well said, Hugh
>
> [I am surprised this type of xenophobic nonsense shows up on this list 
> – usually from Frank, but he seems to have cooled it of late.]
>
> ct
>
> The Pew findings demonstrate that fear of a Muslim takeover was 
> largely the product of hysteria.France is not headed toward becoming 
> an "Islamic republic" by 2048 
> <http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/01/27/will-pew-muslim-birth-rate-study-finally-silence-the-eurabia-claim/>, 
> as has been claimed, andGermany is not on its way to becoming a 
> "Muslim state" by 2050 <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8189231.stm>.
>
> It is strange that these Pew findings and projections are less likely 
> to circulate as widely or quickly as statistics about predictions of a 
> Muslim takeover. Commentators seem more focused on ringing false alarm 
> bells than on presenting facts. The reality is that there is no 
> takeover, but that there is a danger of intolerance that threatens the 
> very fabric of British and European society We are not witnessing a 
> clash of civilisations, but a clash of cultures fostered by those who 
> portray Islam as a monolith and see religious and cultural diversity 
> solely as a threat rather than as a potential source of strength and 
> enrichment. The liberal democratic heritage and fabric of our 
> societies must be safeguarded and fearmongering, religious and racial 
> discrimination rejected and marginalised in a future based on facts 
> not fiction.
>
> *From:* John Feltham <mailto:wantok at me.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:19 AM
> *To:* Undisclosed recipients:
> *Subject:* [BITList] Islamification of Western societies threatens 
> everyone'sfreedoms
>
>   * http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/islamification-of-western-societies-threatens-everyones-freedoms/story-e6frgd0x-1226579834543
>
>  *
>
>   * by: Geert Wilders
>   * From: The Australian <http://www.theaustralian.com.au/>
>   * February 18, 2013 12:00AM
>
> *THIRTY years ago, as a young man, I dreamed of Australia. I wanted to 
> find myself a job there. Lack of sufficient funds decided otherwise 
> and I ended up in Israel, working in a bakery in Jerusalem and on a 
> farm near Jericho.*
>
> *During the year that I lived in Israel, I travelled to Egypt. This 
> trip made a huge impression on me. Israel and Egypt are neighbours, 
> with the same climate, similar resources, the same potential. And yet 
> Egypt is poor while Israel is wealthy. Even though at the time I was 
> not interested in politics, I learned from this trip that the key to 
> understanding the wealth of nations lies in their culture. If the 
> latter promotes freedom, a nation will prosper.*
>
> *In the 30 years since my first visit to Egypt, I have visited 
> Indonesia, Turkey, Tunisia, Syria, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. I left 
> Iran in a hurry once, fearing for my life, because, in a speech at a 
> Tehran school for diplomats and military cadets, I had criticised the 
> regime and spoke in defence of Israel. They had told me that I was 
> allowed to speak freely, but it was naive to believe them.*
>
> *In the Islamic world, I was always struck by two things. I was 
> impressed by the kindness and helpfulness of many people. But there 
> was also their fear. Islamic societies are ruled by terror. Muslims 
> are good people, but they live under the yoke of Islamic sharia. If 
> they leave Islam, or even just mildly criticise it, they sign their 
> own death verdict.*
>
> *I returned to The Netherlands and became a politician. I used to live 
> in the Kanaleneiland district of Utrecht. During my years there, the 
> district was transformed into a dangerous neighbourhood for 
> non-Muslims. I have been robbed. On several occasions I had to run for 
> safety. The same transformation happened in several cities in The 
> Netherlands and other European countries where Islam settled. Europe 
> is going through an Islamification process, which makes our continent 
> less free and less safe.*
>
> *Contrary to what many Westerners think, Islam, rather than a 
> religion, is a totalitarian political ideology. It is an ideology 
> because it aims for an Islamic state and wants to impose sharia on all 
> of us. It is totalitarian because it is not voluntary: once you are 
> in, you cannot get out. Unlike genuine religions, Islam also makes 
> demands on non-Muslims. We, too, are marked for death if we criticise it.*
>
> *For nine years I have been living under constant police protection. I 
> live in a government safe house. I am driven every day to my office in 
> an armoured police car. I have even lived in army barracks and prison 
> cells just to be safe from assassins. I am threatened because I am a a 
> critic of Islam.*
>
> *I always make a distinction between Muslims and Islam, between the 
> people and the ideology. Most Muslims are moderate, but this does not 
> mean there is such a thing as a moderate Islam. People who reject 
> Islam's violent and intolerant commandments are not practising 
> "moderate Islam" -- they are not practising Islam at all.*
>
> *That is the truth. And it needs to be said because freedom of speech 
> is the only tool we have. We stand for our convictions, but we never 
> use violence. We abhor violence. The reason we reject Islam is Islam's 
> violent nature. Our commitment to human dignity does not allow us to 
> use violence nor to give in to cynicism and despair. As the ex-Muslim 
> and Islam critic Ali Sina says: "We don't raise a sword against 
> darkness; we lit a light." So it is. We lit the light of the truth. 
> The truth that while Muslims can embrace freedom, Islam cannot.*
>
> *In the normal order of things, immigration from Islamic countries 
> weakens Islam. People prefer freedom over tyranny. Contact with 
> Western freedoms would lead Muslims to abandon Islam. However, through 
> the creation of a sharia-based parallel society in the West, Islam 
> manages to continue its control over its captives.*
>
> *This week, I will be speaking in Melbourne, Perth and Sydney. 
> Politicians say I am not welcome, universities do not want to grant me 
> access. They say I am an extremist. However, I am not. I am the leader 
> of the third-largest party in The Netherlands, a country known for its 
> tradition of tolerance. I have spoken earlier in the premises of the 
> US congress, the British House of Lords, the Israeli Knesset, the 
> Danish parliament, and at numerous conferences, where I met 
> like-minded democratically elected politicians, none of whom belong to 
> the far Right.*
>
> *Freedom is the key to prosperity and Islam deprives people of it. Let 
> us support Muslims who want to free themselves from the yoke of Islam. 
> Let us stand for our own freedoms. We owe it to the past generations 
> always to speak the truth and not to squander our liberties. And we 
> owe it to the future generations not to sign away their freedom.*
>
> *
> *
>
> *Geert Wilders is a Dutch MP and leader of the Party for Freedom.He 
> will talk in Melbourne tomorrow, Perth on Wednesday and Sydney on 
> Friday. /www.qevent.org <http://www.qevent.org/>//./*
>
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