[BITList] CAN AUSTRALIA SURVIVE GIVEN THE FOLLOWING ?

[franka]

    Colin


    As they say one can juggle figures to prove disprove almost everything

frank


    Welfare expenditure

There is very little correlation between economic performance and 
welfare expenditure.^[31] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state#cite_note-atkinson1995-30>

The table does not show the effect of expenditure on income 
inequalities, and does not encompass some other forms of welfare 
provision (such as occupational welfare 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupational_welfare>).

The table below shows, first, welfare expenditure as a percentage of GDP 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product> for some 
(selected) OECD 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_for_Economic_Co-operation_and_Development> 
member states, with and without public education,^[32] 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state#cite_note-Barr-31> and 
second, GDP per capita (PPP 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity> US$ 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Dollar>) in 2001:

Nation 	Welfare expenditure
(% of GDP)
omitting education 	Welfare expenditure
(% of GDP)
including education 	GDP per capita (PPP US$)
Denmark <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark> 	29.2 	37.9 	$29,000
Sweden <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden> 	28.9 	38.2 	$24,180
France <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France> 	28.5 	34.9 	$23,990
Germany <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany> 	27.4 	33.2 	$25,350
Belgium <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium> 	27.2 	32.7 	$25,520
Switzerland <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland> 	26.4 	31.6 	$28,100
Austria <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria> 	26.0 	32.4 	$26,730
Finland <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland> 	24.8 	32.3 	$24,430
Netherlands <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands> 	24.3 	27.3 	$27,190
Italy <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy> 	24.4 	28.6 	$24,670
Greece <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece> 	24.3 	28.4 	$17,440
Norway <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway> 	23.9 	33.2 	$29,620
Poland <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland> 	23.0 	N/A 	$9,450
United Kingdom <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom> 	21.8 
25.9 	$24,160
Portugal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal> 	21.1 	25.5 	$18,150
Luxembourg <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg> 	20.8 	N/A 	$53,780
Czech Republic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_Republic> 	20.1 
N/A 	$14,720
Hungary <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary> 	20.1 	N/A 	$12,340
Iceland <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland> 	19.8 	23.2 	$29,990
Spain <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain> 	19.6 	25.3 	$20,150
New Zealand <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand> 	18.5 	25.8 	$19,160
Australia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia> 	18.0 	22.5 	$25,370
Slovakia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovakia> 	17.9 	N/A 	$11,960
Canada <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada> 	17.8 	23.1 	$27,130
Japan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan> 	16.9 	18.6 	$25,130
United States <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States> 	14.8 	19.4 
$36,000
Ireland <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland> 	13.8 	18.5 
$32,410
Mexico <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico> 	11.8 	N/A 	$8,430
South Korea <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea> 	6.1 	11.0 	$15,090



On 5/14/2012 12:42 PM, X50type wrote:
> According to US gov 1.9% are receiving gov asst. What percentage are 
> receiving government assistance in Australia?
>
>> The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people 
>> paying for the free stuff - eh?
>>
> According to the Paris based OECD, Australia spends less on welfare 
> than almost any other country..........so what's to complain about?
> Thatchers trite remark, although oft quoted by folks who think they 
> are supporting  everybody else, makes little sense
>
> Sent from my iPad3
>
>
> On May 13, 2012, at 9:46 PM, franka <franka at iinet.net.au 
> <mailto:franka at iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>
>>
>>  Don't think its just Australia with these problems
>> frank
>>
>> "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other 
>> people's money." -- Margaret Thatcher
>>
>>
>> *CAN**AUSTRALIA**SURVIVE GIVEN THE FOLLOWING?*
>>
>> The folks who are getting free stuff, don't like the folks who are 
>> paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the 
>> free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and 
>> their own stuff.
>>
>> The folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to 
>> stop, and the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more 
>> free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting!
>>
>> Now...  The people who are forcing the people to pay for the free 
>> stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff, that the 
>> people who are PAYING for the free stuff, are being mean, prejudiced, 
>> and racist.
>>
>> So...  The people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced 
>> they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the 
>> people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff, and 
>> giving them the free stuff in the first place.
>>
>> We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are 
>> now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff.
>>
>> Now understand this: all great democracies have*//**/committed 
>> financial suicide/*somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being 
>> founded.  The reason?  The voters figured out they could vote 
>> themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to 
>> give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them.  
>> Thomas Jefferson said it best:  "Democracy will cease to exist when 
>> you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those 
>> who would not".
>>
>> The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people 
>> paying for the free stuff.  We have one chance to change that at the 
>> next election in 2013 will we?*//*Failure to change that spells the 
>> end of Australia, as we know it.
>>
>> */ELECTION 2013 IS COMING/*
>>
>> *A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves!*
>>
>> */I'M 100% for PASSING THIS ON!!!/*
>>
>> Let's take a stand!!!
>>
>> *_Gillard:_**     Gone!*
>>
>> *_Borders_**:    Closed!*
>>
>> *_Language_**: Here more than 5 years, younger than 65 then English 
>> only!*
>>
>> *_Culture_*:*     The Australian Constitution!*
>>
>> *_Drug Free_*:***Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare!*
>>
>> *_NO freebies to:_****Non-Citizens!*
>>
>> We the people are coming...
>>
>>
>>
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