[BITList] murder

[David Harvey]

It's not perfect here by any means, but, boy, I'm glad I live here

Dave

On 18 August 2011 12:24, COLIN TAYLOR <s14engine at hotmail.com> wrote:

>   Dave
>
> the systems I mentioned are for the federal government. local governments
> are not run along exactly the same lines.
> mayors can appoint many local officials them selves, consequently [and like
> candidates for many influential offices] they have many hangers on who have
> contributed to their election campaigns and expect something in return –
> like a well paying sinecure, etc.
>
> unfortunately there is no actual or effective limit to the amount
> contributors can make to a candidates election coffers. nor does there seem
> to be a limit on the time before an election when a candidate can start his
> electioneering. to me this system seems ripe for abuse and influence
> peddling, however when challenged the US supreme court has ruled as follows!
> *Justices, 5-4, Reject Corporate Spending Limit* *By **ADAM LIPTAK*<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/l/adam_liptak/index.html?inline=nyt-per>
> * *
>
> *WASHINGTON — Overruling two important precedents about the First
> Amendment rights of corporations, a bitterly divided Supreme Court<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/s/supreme_court/index.html?inline=nyt-org>on Thursday
> ruled <http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-205.pdf> that the
> government may not ban political spending by corporations in candidate
> elections. *
>  *The 5-to-4 decision was a vindication, the majority said, of the First
> Amendment’s most basic free speech principle — that the government has no
> business regulating political speech. The dissenters said that allowing
> corporate money to flood the political marketplace would corrupt
> democracy. *
> **
> so it is what it is...........a fucking circus.
>
> ct
>
>
>
>
>
>  *From:* David Harvey <dhbison at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:37 PM
> *To:* BitList <bitlist at lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [BITList] murder
>
> I see a connection between the Mayor (executive) appointing the police
> chief (law) as being in conflict with the separation of power.
>
> Dave
>
> On 18 August 2011 11:26, <x50type at cox.net> wrote:
>
>>   oh, that separation, Dave
>>
>> The framers of the Constitution<http://americanhistory.about.com/od/usconstitution/p/constfastfacts.htm>decided to base the American governmental system on this idea of three
>> separate branches: executive, judicial, and legislative. The three branches
>> are distinct and have checks and balances<http://americanhistory.about.com/od/usconstitution/a/checks_balances.htm>on each other. In this way, no one branch can gain absolute power or abuse
>> the power they are given. In the United States, the executive branch<http://americanhistory.about.com/od/executivebranch/Executive_Branch.htm>is headed by the
>> President<http://americanhistory.about.com/library/charts/blchartpresidents.htm>and includes the bureaucracy. The legislative
>> branch<http://americanhistory.about.com/od/legislativebranch/Legislative_Branch.htm>includes both houses of Congress: the Senate and the House of
>> Representatives. The judicial branch<http://americanhistory.about.com/od/judicialbranch/Judicial_Branch.htm>consists of the
>> Supreme Court<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/s/supreme_court/index.html>and the lower federal courts.
>>
>> As far as religion goes the First Amendment<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution>of the national constitution, part of the United States' Bill
>> of Rights <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights>: states, *"Congress
>> shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion<http://api.getsmartlinks.com/r?app_id=opencandy&guid=031CA8D3-D9BE-8870-64F1-1CDCF44662ED&time=131363763&ref_hash=157e7511&url=http:%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FState_religion&pid=1&cid=437&link_id=7072024&score=4.04&sense=j3wOOFuIC9hjizUDNfTHbg&hash=528816ecd024a13e6d62f880a4dad720&v[link_target2]=_blank>,
>> or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."*
>> **
>> do you see any connection to the shootings in new orleans, which was the
>> original subject?
>>
>> colin
>>
>>  *From:* David Harvey <dhbison at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:00 PM
>> *To:* BitList <bitlist at lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [BITList] (no subject)
>>
>> Colin,
>>
>> The separation of the government or parliament, the law and the executive
>> ( and chuck in religion as well)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
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